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Re: Logical Fallacies of Common Religious Arguments
If God is perfect, and the Bible is the word of God, the Bible is perfect. I could map it out for you in modal logic, if you like.
If you don't claim something tangible as your ultimate source, your own mind is your ultimate source (something I'm a fan of, as an atheist).
I don't think I'm drawing a false dichotomy when I say that you can choose to be a "real" Christian, or you can pick and choose what you will believe and how you will act based on factors within you, and not without.
Frankly though, I'd rather you were a hypocritical "moderate" Christian than a Fundamentalist.
If you don't claim something tangible as your ultimate source, your own mind is your ultimate source (something I'm a fan of, as an atheist).
I don't think I'm drawing a false dichotomy when I say that you can choose to be a "real" Christian, or you can pick and choose what you will believe and how you will act based on factors within you, and not without.
Frankly though, I'd rather you were a hypocritical "moderate" Christian than a Fundamentalist.
By: Hier
Re: Logical Fallacies of Common Religious Arguments
It was only barely a response. I only mentioned the other guy to give it extra context. I noticed that YouTube lacked any even approachingly-comprehensive video on fallacies.
ps we do rule
ps we do rule
By: Hier
Re: Logical Fallacies of Common Religious Arguments
There aren't positive arguments for atheism. There aren't any for theism. That's how atheism comes about.
And I wouldn't consider that an ad hominem. It was more of a summary of the numerous refutations he was given by every other atheist in the community with the patience to do so. But MAYBE.
And I wouldn't consider that an ad hominem. It was more of a summary of the numerous refutations he was given by every other atheist in the community with the patience to do so. But MAYBE.
By: Hier
Re: Logical Fallacies of Common Religious Arguments
What, you mean "veni, vidi, vici, bithches"? Oh come on! I think I deserve a little bit of smugness for not resorting to a word like "turd".
By: Hier
Re: Logical Fallacies of Common Religious Arguments
While Zeitgeist is an occasionally informative movie, it's tainted by itself. The 9/11 attacks were not some sort of "inside job".
By: Hier
Re: Logical Fallacies of Common Religious Arguments
"Though i do hope i'm in the good books with God by simply leading a good life and treating others with respect."
If there is a God, you and me both, brother.
As for the bible? I think there's about as much good as bad. But, luckily for me, as an atheist I can ignore (without contradiction) the nasty bits and absorb the insight of the good.
If there is a God, you and me both, brother.
As for the bible? I think there's about as much good as bad. But, luckily for me, as an atheist I can ignore (without contradiction) the nasty bits and absorb the insight of the good.
By: Hier
It's funny, because most theists accuse me of this. But, to the observant, this is an obvious Straw Man.
I'm not pretending I've destroyed theism (it does that itself by being founded on false premises), just hoping that maybe by getting these out of the way I might hear some of the fabled "real" arguments from theists once in a while.
Hit me with your best shot, if you've got one.