It's Not Too Late
Tina and Amy make the case for Hillary and Bill.
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The bitch is sexy. Tina, I mean. Not Hillary.
Posted by: Phidippides
| February 24, 2008 9:18 AM | Reply to this comment
That's the first argument for Hillary that didn't make me cringe!
While I'm disappointed in both our options on the Democratic ticket, I figure I'd let supporters on both sides know that I'll happily be voting for either one of them in the general election. To be honest, I'd vote for Lieberman over McCain if that were the option. While I may not be ecstatic over the choices we have, both Hillary and Barack will be a welcome breath of fresh air in the White House. A centrist Democrat is light-years better than any pandering GOP scoundrel.
Posted by: Stupid Git
| February 24, 2008 9:46 AM | Reply to this comment
Crap! I forgot I was gonna record (ugh) SNL yesterday just for the Tina Fey love. I'll just have to do without HD in the torrents.
Posted by: Andyo
| February 24, 2008 9:49 AM | Reply to this comment
HAHA yeah that was pretty funny!
Posted by: bob
| February 24, 2008 11:12 AM | Reply to this comment
too late
Posted by: RedSeven
| February 24, 2008 11:21 AM | Reply to this comment
Well, I hope it is too late.
By the way, do either Obama or Clinton say anything about electoral reform? That would be the main basis of my vote... if I had one.
Posted by: Christiaan
| February 24, 2008 11:27 AM | Reply to this comment
That's the first argument for Hillary that didn't make me cringe!
Git, I agree!
Until Thursday's debate I'd have said I'd be happy for either Hillary or Barack to be the nominee. Since then, Hillary's absurd plagiarism charge and her feigned outrage over Obama's fliers have changed my mind -- I would not be happy for Hillary to be the nominee, although there's no question I would vote for her over McCain.
That said, I love the line "bitch is the new black."
Posted by: aglee
| February 24, 2008 11:57 AM | Reply to this comment
"bitch is the new black"
LOL
i may the only person who started out an obama supported and slowly moved over to hilary the more i saw her debate barak.
Posted by: brendan
| February 24, 2008 12:01 PM | Reply to this comment
Does anyone else think it strange for SNL to allow a cast member (or host) to sincerely endorse a presidential candidate? I know they always poke fun at some politicians more than others, and they are stationed out of New York (a pro-Hilary state), but as far as I can remember nobody on SNL as ever blatantly told their audience to vote for one candidate over another. I am very surprised and disappointed that Lorn Michaels, or whoever oversees the script, allowed this speech to air.
Posted by: Eric
| February 24, 2008 12:14 PM | Reply to this comment
"I am very surprised and disappointed that Lorn Michaels, or whoever oversees the script, allowed this speech to air."
Isn't she suppose to be the Lead Writer over there? I don't think she needs approval from anyone. Besides, she didn't persuade me to vote for Hillary, but it did make me laugh...and after all, that's the Bitch's Job remember? ;)
Posted by: bob
| February 24, 2008 12:35 PM | Reply to this comment
They're just despondent they won't get to make 8 more years of blow-job jokes.
Posted by: b.dewhirst
| February 24, 2008 12:54 PM | Reply to this comment
They probably wrote that speech two months ago, and this was their first opportunity to use it.
I think if Hillary's slogan was "Bitches get shit done" she would have done better then she did with "ready on day one."
Posted by: RedSeven
| February 24, 2008 1:41 PM | Reply to this comment
way too late. With Clinton's phony outrage over Obama's portrayal of her healhcare plan (Gee Hillary did you forget that your hubby was spreading lies about Barack's healthcare plan earlier http://factbeat.com/get_story.php?id=205) and her staff sending reports to the MSM trying to suggest that Obama is a radical trying to blow up the world because he once sat on a board and had a meeting at the house of a former Weather Underground terrorist who served his time in prison then went straight - http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4330128&page=1 .
Sorry Hillary, it's you that's engaging in Rovian tactics and doing the old GOP trick of suggesting it's your opponents who are. Way to late and shame on you.
Posted by: Doug Alder
| February 24, 2008 2:56 PM | Reply to this comment
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Posted by: RedSeven
| February 24, 2008 3:23 PM | Reply to this comment
Is it a good idea to use a sexist epithet in a nationally broadcast and popular show to support Lady Clinton? If she wanted to be completely honest with the sentiment, she would have said "bitch is the new negro", only not use the word negro. Maybe I've just completely lost my sense of humor . . . I think it's more likely it's SNL. Tina Fey is working backwards, too bad she's got millions of viewers to blindly follow her.
Posted by: Tick | February 24, 2008 3:56 PM | Reply to this comment
Norm,
I cannot believe a person of logic, science, and reason is for Hilary Clinton. Not so much an attack on her, but rather, I think that Obama is more a choice towards logic and reason.
His line of thinking is consistent and (somewhat) honest. He doesn't mask his health care plan as "universal", when it is obviously not. Even though its not catchy; Obama calls his plan "affordable health care for all".
These are just examples......Over all Obama is a well-spoken, consistent, intelligent person.
I think Barak not wearing his flag lapel was the best example of his consistent, logical, and honest line of thinking. Instead, even when everyone (including the left) from citizens to politicians were criticizing about no stupid flag pin he did not simple go out a buy a flag pin. Instead of break under the pressure...he spoke his mind and spoke out. He went against the grain ,and told people that a faith and respect for America has nothing to do with a pin or a flag its what you believe in.
Hilary's ridiculous attack about acting, and not doing, is not even about diminishing the power of words. Its nothing more than a bad tactic. It allows Clinton to attack his potential policies without have to explain or defend her own. I am sorry ,but I don't want a candidate to simply say they will fix poverty and act, or would you rather have them explain a policy that will attempt to end poverty. The latter is a a mark of a man who thinks, and who is open to discourse. American need a thinker--a talker--a listener. Not someone who is going to just act without discussion and thought.
Posted by: gary | February 24, 2008 4:40 PM | Reply to this comment
I'm not really for either candidate. I'll vote for the nominee or at least I would if I lived somewhere other than Utah. My vote will go to Nader. I think Clinton is slightly better on the issues than Obama, and I think we have less of a chance of getting to universal healthcare with him than with her. They both fall short of what I want. So when you say I'm for Hillary it is a little misleading. I had a chance to vote for either Hillary or Barack in my state primary and chose to vote for John Edwards as a protest. I cannot believe that a person of logic, science and reason is for either one of them other than that they are the only choices.
Posted by: Norm
in reply to comment from gary
| February 24, 2008 4:56 PM | Reply to this comment
From my point of view, this editorial was a reaction to the on-going sexism/anti-feminism that has been exposed by Hillary running. It is amazing and fantastic that we finally have a woman running a serious race and comments like Limbaugh's do tend to make you crazy. I'm not voting for Hillary because I think the majority of the right wingers would rather have McCain than Hillary (especially, the men) but, I think they will be open to Barak - maybe not --- yes, I was an Edwards fan.
I'm disappointed to hear you say you are voting for Nader, Norm. I do believe that is a vote for McCain and I truly don't think this country can take another four years of a Republican. I know he won't be as bad as Bush but he will load up the courts, keep the tax cuts and he wants to bomb bomb bomb Iran.
Posted by: jillbryant2003
| February 24, 2008 9:07 PM | Reply to this comment
Jill, he lives in Utah and we have a few months to work on him.
Norm, lets not forget about the importance of the polular vote(small but significant).
Disliking all things popular is what crated the Insane Clown Pose. I would bet even the ICP is voting Obama.
Posted by: RedSeven
| February 24, 2008 9:16 PM | Reply to this comment
"...he lives in Utah and we have a few months to work on him."
Wow, with the way you guys are talking about Norm's vote, you'd think he's a super-delegate...
...Although maybe he is. One might assume that even super-delegates must have mild mannered alter-egos. ;)
Posted by: bob
| February 24, 2008 10:45 PM | Reply to this comment
Thanks for posting Tina Fey's commentary. And thanks for posting some clips from substantive moments in the current debates. Your site is the only place I can find clips that offer candidates speaking about the issues.
I am furious with the media and their slanted coverage. From the first, the media focused on Senators Clinton and Obama to the exclusion of Biden and Edwards though both Joe and John offered depth of experience and were highly qualiified candidates. Being white men doesn't grab headlines like "the first woman" or "the first black man" does. So, we never got to know much of what they had to offer.
Now, with the field being culled to 2 candidates, it has become evident that the substantive, thoughtful, depthful comments from Clinton are buried or not covered at all. Issues are not covered...it's eloquence over answers. How dare a woman be "uppity." Reminds me of the old Jim Crow days. Yes, bitch is the new black. She should know her place.
Is there evidence of Jim Crow (or should I say "Jane Crow") in political coverage? Look at some benign comments by seasoned correspondents and turn it around and then the mindset becomes more obvious. When asked about Romney's future, CNN's chief correspondent John King began "Gov. Romney is a young man." http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/02/07/romney.qa/ Ask yourself if you can envision any chief political correspondent saying "Hillary is a young woman." Sounds hugely ridiculous, right? But the fact is that Mitt is six months older than Hillary.
Bottom line, if the media covered Obama the way they have covered Clinton, minority rights groups would have howled Jim Crow.
Additionally I am deeply disappointed that moveon.org jumped into the middle of the democratic primary to campaign for one candidate over the other. Both candidates should have been allowed to debate issues and the public allowed to hear them and decide. As it is, should Obama win the nomination, I don't think this primary process has tested his mettle enough for him to have gained the experience to stand up well against the experience and likability of John McCain.
--Thanks for your blog, Norm. You've been a mainstay for me now many years. Jack
Posted by: Jack | February 25, 2008 12:52 AM | Reply to this comment
hilarious. hillaryous? hill our eros!
aww as long as we're vying for norm's vote, let me just say, thanks for running such a cool blog. if i lived in utah, i'd vote for my cat. he's still the most qualified of all the candidates. alas, no super delegates can be bribed with mice.
Posted by: amorphousblob
| February 25, 2008 1:22 AM | Reply to this comment
Tina Fey will always have my love.
Posted by: TheRealChristopher | February 25, 2008 1:27 AM | Reply to this comment
That felt... one-sided.
SNL has pretty much always sucked for me, so I guess I can't say I'm disappointed.
Posted by: Maelstrom
| February 25, 2008 9:55 AM | Reply to this comment
you tell 'em. being a freethinker is a higher calling than being a "liberal" or a "democrat" or even (and especially) an "american".
give 'em hell.
Posted by: jonathan becker
| February 25, 2008 11:48 AM | Reply to this comment
"From my point of view, this editorial was a reaction to the on-going sexism/anti-feminism that has been exposed by Hillary running."
at least somebody got it.
bob: seth myers is the lead writer. tina fey doesnt work at snl anymore.
gary: any rational person would know that hilary has outperformed barak in every debate. and what's up with barak's flip flop on palestine? was that rational?
Posted by: brendan
| February 25, 2008 11:51 AM | Reply to this comment
It works! It works! You appropriate the derogatory word and wear it proudly on your sleeve. As in this case, you've effectively defused the word "Bitch". I guess that's good but politics never fails to remind me that we forever stay in the sandbox when fighting our issues. Nyah nyah nyah nyah nyahhh!!!
Posted by: FritzHeadSaid | February 25, 2008 5:22 PM | Reply to this comment
I finally downloaded the SNL ep, wow, SNL has gotten even worse than I remember! It kept reminding me of that failed Daily Show wannabe on Fox News. I don't know why so many people keep doing that show. This was the only kind of good part, and the cameo by Steve Martin. He's always funny that silly guy.
Posted by: Andyo
| February 25, 2008 6:16 PM | Reply to this comment
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