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Olberman: The Beginning of the End of America
Olbermann takes Bush on for the "Military Commissions Act" and the death of Habeas Corpus.
"And if you somehow think Habeas Corpus has not been suspended for American citizens but only for everybody else, ask yourself this: If you are pulled off the street tomorrow, and they call you an alien or an undocumented immigrant or an "unlawful enemy combatant" ? exactly how are you going to convince them to give you a court hearing to prove you are not? Do you think this Attorney General is going to help you?
This President now has his blank check.
He lied to get it.
He lied as he received it.
Is there any reason to even hope, he has not lied about how he intends to use it, nor who he intends to use it against?"
"And if you somehow think Habeas Corpus has not been suspended for American citizens but only for everybody else, ask yourself this: If you are pulled off the street tomorrow, and they call you an alien or an undocumented immigrant or an "unlawful enemy combatant" ? exactly how are you going to convince them to give you a court hearing to prove you are not? Do you think this Attorney General is going to help you?
This President now has his blank check.
He lied to get it.
He lied as he received it.
Is there any reason to even hope, he has not lied about how he intends to use it, nor who he intends to use it against?"
Dec 31, 2007 10:16 AM
Re: Olberman: The Beginning of the End of America
So that is what rage-cramps look like.
By: doctorsmoothy
Re: Olberman: The Beginning of the End of America
We'd be better off to see more cases. Better than apathetic stares and bouts of nausea.
By: SpyPlaneX1
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God forbid that somebody should actually care enough to get upset about something like, well, you know, the law.
By: i8ursandwich
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or maybe even, God forbid, freedom...
p.s. Siding with you here. Reading that back it looked like it was aimed against you. Olberman annoys me in his manor sometimes, but it's good to see a voice for reason on a U. S. news channel.
p.s. Siding with you here. Reading that back it looked like it was aimed against you. Olberman annoys me in his manor sometimes, but it's good to see a voice for reason on a U. S. news channel.
By: Shiver
Re: Olberman: The Beginning of the End of America
I don't bother watching cable, so the internet is my only source for shows and news media. By now, I've probably seen about six Olberman speeches. He is clearly a great talker. I like that he calls out the Bush administration for it's injustices and criminal boldness.
However, I find Olberman is not without his own BS. His routine is getting old and, I think, he'd have more impact if he wasn't such a team liberal player.
Sure, he has a right to park his ass on whatever side of the fence he likes. It's just that the moral sainthood attitude is annoying. Even though, the outrage and condemnation is well places when discussing current affairs. He just needs to step down from such a high horse. Maybe get a pony and speak from there.
However, I find Olberman is not without his own BS. His routine is getting old and, I think, he'd have more impact if he wasn't such a team liberal player.
Sure, he has a right to park his ass on whatever side of the fence he likes. It's just that the moral sainthood attitude is annoying. Even though, the outrage and condemnation is well places when discussing current affairs. He just needs to step down from such a high horse. Maybe get a pony and speak from there.
By: EViLMinD
Re: Olberman: The Beginning of the End of America
He's right, but he's also really annoying. Why can't the left have any speakers people wouldn't mind listening to? But maybe people will listen to him, since he's sounds exactly like the right's talking heads...
By: y0j1m80
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extremism is the real enemy. moderates of the world unite!
By: bobolifoo
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Stated so modestly, but this is the crux of the crisis our country is in. It's not because of the "radical left" or the "religious right" or any such nonsense, but rather the demagogues that have convinced us that such a pure dichotomy really exists - that this must be the nature of political and civil discourse in this country. In order to serve interests that I really believe are no more than financial, fantastic efforts have been undertaken by the rich and powerful to convince the common fool that we're all either left or right, democrat or republican, conservative or liberal. Black and white. Us and them. With us or against us. We deny our common experience of being moderate Americans living among other Americans who are also overwhelmingly moderate, because it is enticing, or intoxicating, or reassuring, perhaps, to believe that an enemy has been identified, and the battle to defeat them has been engaged. So much easier than admitting that the truth is complicated; that the answers are difficult, and require compromise, hard work, and sacrifice. As forever since the rise of human civilization, the enemies are the corrupt and powerful in positions of financial or political or religious significance. Furthermore, In a democracy such as our own, there is nobody to blame but ourselves, for refusing to question those people, for ignoring our common experience as humans, and for abandoning "the better angels of our nature".
Right vs. left?? Ya been had.
Right vs. left?? Ya been had.
By: ice-9
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The corporate media is only too happy to label you and shuffle you down one of their two paths -- each of which ends at the exact same place.
Instead of allowing ourselves to be owned, the real enemy is corporate multinational powers that would easily divide us so we cannot work together to stand up for an American way of life that includes real freedom, economic stability, and a strong middle class.
Instead of fighting each other, we need to stand up and say we don't support consolidating wealth in the hands of the few elites.
We don't support a despot who ignores our Constitution and laws - and forgets that *he* works for *us.* Not the other way around.
We don't support bankrupting our nation to give our hard-earned tax dollars to corporate special interests and the socialism of no-bid billion dollar Halliburton contracts.
And we don't support giving tax breaks to the wealthy so they can turn around and ship American jobs overseas.
It's not you against me, Red against Blue, Liberal against Conservative. It's the uber-wealty elite corporatists against us. And we need to stand together to save America - and to save ourselves.
Instead of allowing ourselves to be owned, the real enemy is corporate multinational powers that would easily divide us so we cannot work together to stand up for an American way of life that includes real freedom, economic stability, and a strong middle class.
Instead of fighting each other, we need to stand up and say we don't support consolidating wealth in the hands of the few elites.
We don't support a despot who ignores our Constitution and laws - and forgets that *he* works for *us.* Not the other way around.
We don't support bankrupting our nation to give our hard-earned tax dollars to corporate special interests and the socialism of no-bid billion dollar Halliburton contracts.
And we don't support giving tax breaks to the wealthy so they can turn around and ship American jobs overseas.
It's not you against me, Red against Blue, Liberal against Conservative. It's the uber-wealty elite corporatists against us. And we need to stand together to save America - and to save ourselves.
By: buckinghamgreen
