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Edward Current tries to explain why atheism is a dangerous, intolerant religion that kills.
Nov 10, 2007 5:58 PM
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Found a video by Edward Current to go with the "Atheism, Checkmate" video. "Satire" is the key word here.
By: ipwnzj00
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If he had a pair of glasses on, he'd be Tobias Fünke, Professional Analrapist.
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this must be satire. if it's not, he's an idiot. I KNOW there is a creator, which could be a number of things, but this is just an ignorant tirade here. He justifies things like our president would. "It's because of this non scienntific reason that I state as if it's fact but really it's not or it can't be proven". the only difference is that our president is not stating these "facts" in ignorance.
By: jellis4
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I know that you've been here long enough to know that this is satire.
By: cheezsteak
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If I said that I KNOW there is not a creator... or that I KNOW that the origins of the universe did not involve a creator...
What would you say to me?
What would you say to me?
By: quaidbrown
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I think you're presenting a false dichotomy here. Not all Religious people state that they KNOW there is god, nor do all atheists claim to KNOW there isn't one. You can be an agnostic atheist, or a gnostic atheist.
In regards to the video- he's making satire, who cares. Why pick apart an argument he doesn't actually hold.
http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Atheist_vs._Agnostic#Combining_terms
In regards to the video- he's making satire, who cares. Why pick apart an argument he doesn't actually hold.
http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Atheist_vs._Agnostic#Combining_terms
By: hypersapien
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Nailed it. Almost. The truth is that the outspoken atheists get carried away into an offensive rejection of gods and the people who revere them, grouping all agnostics, non-theists, and people like me who generally don't give a damn into the same category as vehement atheists. And atheists throughout time have wreaked similar destruction. Honestly, reality is too much fun to get caught up in uncivilized conflicts of how it got here. Stupid.
By: boyblunders
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I came in just to see who would get confused and think he was serious. I'm glad to see I wasn't disappointed.
By: Faffy
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haha. it seems thats been happening more often lately, huh?
By: hypersapien
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He can't run from the fact that more human beings have been persecuted and murdered by secular, atheist regimes in the name of humanistic philosophy or ideology during the 20th century, than all past religious persecutions in history combined.
By: poonhound
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True that. I'm sick of whiny little atheists "standing up" and "speaking out" in an inflammatory way towards religion. They do the exact same thing as intolerant religiosos by insulting their lifestyle. Divisive bullshit either way. It's a human tendency to grasp onto what one sees as superior knowledge and judge others for having a different viewpoint, and now it's atheists with specious words parading as logic, reason, and that more recent buzz word - science. As if half of atheists know what science really is, otherwise they wouldn't be atheists. Science is a suspension of judgement. It's pretending that God stepped out for a moment without a word and left a beautiful mess called reality for us to clean up. Whether or not he exists is beside the point. Just wake up and behold the wonder of nature every single minute of every day. Where it came from is beside the point. As far as I'm concerned, the religiosos haven't empirically proved the positive, and atheists will never ever ever in their lifetime be able to prove the negative.
By: boyblunders
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You don't prove nonexistence. You accept the null hypothesis.
By: i8ursandwich
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Or you decided that the functional significance of the entire question is zero.
By: boyblunders
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What?! Wow! Run . . . from the "fact"?!
Poonhound, are you being satirical yourself? Or are you dyslexic and sometimes mix up your words? Maybe you are just obtuse and stupid.
Yeah, I'm leaning toward the latter.
Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Mousalinni and Kim Jong-il were not humanistic philosophers or mere leaders of atheist regimes. They were maniacal psychopathic dictators that slaughtered millions in the name of their own greatness.
JUST IN THE LAST DECADE :: religion has been the explicit reason for millions of deaths in . . . The recent conflicts in the Balkans (Orthodox Serbians v. Catholic Croatians; Orthodox Serbians v. Bosnian and Albanian Muslims), Iraq (Muslim Sunni v. Shiites), Palestine (Jews v. Muslims), Northern Ireland (Protestants v. Catholics), Kashmir (Muslims v. Hindus), Sudan (Muslims v. Christians and animists), Nigeria (Muslims v. Christians), Ethiopia and Eritrea (Muslims v. Christians), Sri Lanka (Sinhalese Buddhists v. Tamil Hindus), Indonesia (Muslims v. Timorese Christians), the Caucasus (Orthodox Russians v. Chechen Muslims; Muslim Azerbaijanis v. Catholic and Orthodox Armenians) These are merely a few cases in point.
Poonhound, are you being satirical yourself? Or are you dyslexic and sometimes mix up your words? Maybe you are just obtuse and stupid.
Yeah, I'm leaning toward the latter.
Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Mousalinni and Kim Jong-il were not humanistic philosophers or mere leaders of atheist regimes. They were maniacal psychopathic dictators that slaughtered millions in the name of their own greatness.
JUST IN THE LAST DECADE :: religion has been the explicit reason for millions of deaths in . . . The recent conflicts in the Balkans (Orthodox Serbians v. Catholic Croatians; Orthodox Serbians v. Bosnian and Albanian Muslims), Iraq (Muslim Sunni v. Shiites), Palestine (Jews v. Muslims), Northern Ireland (Protestants v. Catholics), Kashmir (Muslims v. Hindus), Sudan (Muslims v. Christians and animists), Nigeria (Muslims v. Christians), Ethiopia and Eritrea (Muslims v. Christians), Sri Lanka (Sinhalese Buddhists v. Tamil Hindus), Indonesia (Muslims v. Timorese Christians), the Caucasus (Orthodox Russians v. Chechen Muslims; Muslim Azerbaijanis v. Catholic and Orthodox Armenians) These are merely a few cases in point.
By: starchie
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They were maniacal psychopathic dictators that slaghtered millions in the name of humanistic philosopy. Such as the eugenics of the "Master Race," or the socialist utopia of the "New Man." Peace was the end of opposition to socialism, and to those who opposed their visions of a "radiant society" had to be ENDED.
P.S. I notice a lot of Muslims vs. someone else in your list. Perhaps going forward in the 21st century it is only ONE religion we have to worry about.
P.S. I notice a lot of Muslims vs. someone else in your list. Perhaps going forward in the 21st century it is only ONE religion we have to worry about.
By: poonhound
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Except for one minor detail. Hitler was a Christian, and the Third Reich's activities had a large measure of religious motivation. Though Hitler did express a certain affinity with the Muslim tradition of religious violence.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity
But if you need some recent Christian atrocities, there's always the Sabra/Shatila massacre, the Rwanda genocode, and the Catholic clergy child sex abuse in the U.S. And of course, there's always the Jesus-addled response to September 11 in the U.S.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity
But if you need some recent Christian atrocities, there's always the Sabra/Shatila massacre, the Rwanda genocode, and the Catholic clergy child sex abuse in the U.S. And of course, there's always the Jesus-addled response to September 11 in the U.S.
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"We will wash off the veneer of Christianity from Europe and bring out a new religion peculiar to our blood."
-Adolf Hitler.
-Adolf Hitler.
By: poonhound
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Do you think that being an atheist is what caused them to commit genocide?
By: i8ursandwich
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Yeah, I've yet to see roving gangs of atheists looking for non-non-believers to torture and kill. It just doesn't happen on straight religious motivation. Pol Pot and Stalin were not motivated by religion, but by political ideology.
On the other hand, just in the last ten years there have been major incidents of Muslim, Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Sikh, and Buddhist groups being both perpetrators and victims of mob violence, state violence, and organized terror, on the apparent basis of religion alone.
On the other hand, just in the last ten years there have been major incidents of Muslim, Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Sikh, and Buddhist groups being both perpetrators and victims of mob violence, state violence, and organized terror, on the apparent basis of religion alone.
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You could also argue that Atheism hasn't had time to reach majority status, as it is often the religious minority who is persecuted by the majority. One can't discern whether Atheism could turn into a malevolent intolerance. Right now, Atheists justify themselves with the argument that religion sows dissent amongst humanity. It isn't a far leap for them to arrive at the solution which is to eradicate religion. Another way to put it is that religion has no intellectual basis, and neither does the variety of atheism which claims that there is no god, so any decisions made with atheism in mind are just as ill-founded as religious decisions.
The whole idea of a beginning should be done away with altogether. It has no functional significance. In fact, it is pondering the origins of the universe when there is no scientific assay for it that leads to conflict, because no solution will ever be intellectually correct. Atheism is just as bad as religion by buying into the argument at all. By the way, I am talking about atheists who believe that there is no god, not one of the many other definitions for a more mild variety of atheism.
The whole idea of a beginning should be done away with altogether. It has no functional significance. In fact, it is pondering the origins of the universe when there is no scientific assay for it that leads to conflict, because no solution will ever be intellectually correct. Atheism is just as bad as religion by buying into the argument at all. By the way, I am talking about atheists who believe that there is no god, not one of the many other definitions for a more mild variety of atheism.
By: boyblunders
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The adherence to the ideologies of "the New Man" and Eugenics, which abstain from and repudiate any belief in the existence of the divine is what caused them to commit genocide.
A nihilistic approach to the intrinsic moral worth of a human being is fostered by atheism. It allows people to commit genocide without any sense of moral consequences, since there are no physical consequences in this world if you are powerful enough, and there is no reason to believe in the moral worth of an individual except through acknowledging a higher purpose to creation.
Some religions, such as Islam, do indeed devalue non-believers and contain precepts to wage war against them within their original scriptures, but most religions do not.
On the other hand, Many of the conflicts cited as religious in nature (the IRA vs the British, or the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka) for example are ethnic nationalistic or tribalist in nature, and do not call upon religious edicts found in scripture to fight them. Being religious does not cause them to commit violence, in those cases.
A nihilistic approach to the intrinsic moral worth of a human being is fostered by atheism. It allows people to commit genocide without any sense of moral consequences, since there are no physical consequences in this world if you are powerful enough, and there is no reason to believe in the moral worth of an individual except through acknowledging a higher purpose to creation.
Some religions, such as Islam, do indeed devalue non-believers and contain precepts to wage war against them within their original scriptures, but most religions do not.
On the other hand, Many of the conflicts cited as religious in nature (the IRA vs the British, or the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka) for example are ethnic nationalistic or tribalist in nature, and do not call upon religious edicts found in scripture to fight them. Being religious does not cause them to commit violence, in those cases.
By: poonhound
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Mutually. Ensured. Destruction.
i.e. "I hurt you, you hurt me."
Causing harm generally comes back at you. Given, those who believe they have enough power to override this may commit atrocities (but even GUNS can cause this inequality of power), it's clear that these people aren't mentally stable in the first place.
Additionally, I postulate that the above mentioned group is no more prevalent than the "doing God's work" group.
i.e. "I hurt you, you hurt me."
Causing harm generally comes back at you. Given, those who believe they have enough power to override this may commit atrocities (but even GUNS can cause this inequality of power), it's clear that these people aren't mentally stable in the first place.
Additionally, I postulate that the above mentioned group is no more prevalent than the "doing God's work" group.
By: Faffy
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You clearly just don't know that much about atheism, modern studies of morality, and religion in general. Allow me.
Perhaps those things caused Hitler to commimt genocide. So? Are you suggesting that all atheists subscribe to those beliefs?
"A nihilistic approach to the intrinsic moral worth of a human being is fostered by atheism." This is simply not true. Have you ever heard of the Enlightenment? Or if your knowledge of morality is confined to pop culture, have you ever heard of Christopher Hitchens? Dawkins? Are you suggesting that atheists wouldn't feel bad about committing genocide? I've almost always disagreed with you, but now you've personally offended me.
The scriptures of many religions are inherently violent in nature. For example: http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/BibleViolence.htm
Have you never heard of the Crusades?
Perhaps those things caused Hitler to commimt genocide. So? Are you suggesting that all atheists subscribe to those beliefs?
"A nihilistic approach to the intrinsic moral worth of a human being is fostered by atheism." This is simply not true. Have you ever heard of the Enlightenment? Or if your knowledge of morality is confined to pop culture, have you ever heard of Christopher Hitchens? Dawkins? Are you suggesting that atheists wouldn't feel bad about committing genocide? I've almost always disagreed with you, but now you've personally offended me.
The scriptures of many religions are inherently violent in nature. For example: http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/BibleViolence.htm
Have you never heard of the Crusades?
By: i8ursandwich
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who cares? If all the people killed were good Christians, Muslims, Jews, or whatever they are all in heaven according to their own brand of BS so everyone wins.
By: ROXYBOO
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Utter bullshit.
It's the religions who persecute. Just where did you get this idiocy from?
It's the religions who persecute. Just where did you get this idiocy from?
By: spam_vigilante
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This guy has a bunch of videos with the same agenda, basically a sarcastic refuge in atheism. Although it's not very creative, he gets his point across.
By: Tyguy
