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Derren Brown reproduces the Milgram experiment on the episode, "The Heist."
In this episode, Derren Brown subconciously influences middle management buisness men and women with no previous criminal record to pull an armed robbery without ever directly mentioning the idea to them.
In this episode, Derren Brown subconciously influences middle management buisness men and women with no previous criminal record to pull an armed robbery without ever directly mentioning the idea to them.
Nov 10, 2007 5:29 AM
Re: Derren Brown: Blast from the Past
isn't performing this experiment illegal now? ...due to the damage it does to the subject
Re: Derren Brown: Blast from the Past
Yes the milgram experiment was vastly unethical because of the emotional damage it did to the person pushing the button.
By: cheezsteak
Re: Derren Brown: Blast from the Past
It's not illegal to perform the Milgram experiment. As long as the subjects can quit the experiment whenever they wish, and are properly debriefed afterwards, the experiment should be okay. Ethics don't automatically equate to legality, much as we may wish. 8)
By: Jiachi
Re: Derren Brown: Milgram experiment
Somehow, the new description (which I didn't write) doesn't apply to the video itself. If some moderator would like to correct that, I would be grateful.
Re: Derren Brown: Milgram experiment
The footage from the original experiment is far more eerie, because I think I remember the "learner's" reactions being far more convincing. I was in the army for some time, and this experiment makes me wonder how far I'd go--if I'm by nature or by training more likely to finish the experiment. We all like to think we're good people, but it seems at least half of us are subject to echoing the defense parroted over and over again at Nuremberg; "I was just following orders."
By: Oh-Deeh
Re: Derren Brown: Milgram experiment
The "following orders" defense is more convincing when your orders come from the German SS. To me, the most interesting aspect of this experiment is that there's no threat made against the "teacher". It's just some dweeb in a lab coat, and the only threat is that the experiment might get messed up.
There are also experiments that show people are more willing to do nasty things when their actions are just a small part in a bigger process, or when they have the cover of anonymity.
These experiments are interesting, and I don't consider them unethical if done compassionately. The children who were subjects of the blue-eye-brown-eye experiment have mostly grown up to be more compassionate, and as adults are generally glad to have been part of that experiment. The value of such experiments can be immense.
There are also experiments that show people are more willing to do nasty things when their actions are just a small part in a bigger process, or when they have the cover of anonymity.
These experiments are interesting, and I don't consider them unethical if done compassionately. The children who were subjects of the blue-eye-brown-eye experiment have mostly grown up to be more compassionate, and as adults are generally glad to have been part of that experiment. The value of such experiments can be immense.
Re: Derren Brown: Milgram experiment
I'm a political scientist. We all read about this but the actual data generally is not studied. Because it was unethical sociologists and other scientific fields have turned their back on it lest they give such experiments authority. But the truth is it happened anyway and we all know the results so we don't have to study it because in the back of our head we know authority can create monsters.
By: wipis
