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Ron Paul took an opportunity during the PBS Republican Presidential Debates, moderated by Tavis Smiley, to call for end to the Drug War.
Oct 1, 2007 11:32 PM
Re: Ron Paul Calls for End to Drug War
Ron Paul's views on reproductive rights are a deal breaker for me, but I couldn't agree more with him here.
Re: Ron Paul Calls for End to Drug War
What are his views on reproductive rights? I assume his stance is that it is up to the individual, just don't expect the state to pay for it.
Hmmm. I agree that tax payers' money shouldn't have to finance such things. However, I think the results are better if everyone has access to abortion. Just looking at the economics of the whole matter will show that it is cheaper to pay for a simple operation than a welfare mother/family.
For me, Ron Paul comes across as the most genuine and authentic political figure I've ever seen. Though I do not agree with all of his views, I still think the man's intentions are honest and fair. That means a lot to me. He's the only GOP that could get my vote. Sure, he doesn't stand a chance...but it is nice to here him speak, anyway. Ron Paul certainly brings a refreshing intelligence to the GOP discussions. Now...if only the Dems could be so lucky...
Hmmm. I agree that tax payers' money shouldn't have to finance such things. However, I think the results are better if everyone has access to abortion. Just looking at the economics of the whole matter will show that it is cheaper to pay for a simple operation than a welfare mother/family.
For me, Ron Paul comes across as the most genuine and authentic political figure I've ever seen. Though I do not agree with all of his views, I still think the man's intentions are honest and fair. That means a lot to me. He's the only GOP that could get my vote. Sure, he doesn't stand a chance...but it is nice to here him speak, anyway. Ron Paul certainly brings a refreshing intelligence to the GOP discussions. Now...if only the Dems could be so lucky...
By: EViLMinD
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As for Ron Paul's stance on abortion, he introduced the Sanctity of Life Act. Basically, this act would remove abortion from federal jurisdiction, and would ignore Roe Vs. Wade.
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Previous information has been shamelessly lifted from Wikipedia. For further Wikipedia information on Ron Paul, please refer to the following web page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_paul
By: i8ursandwich
Re: Ron Paul Calls for End to Drug War
If you've ever been through town on your way to East Beach in Galveston, you'll see plenty of Ron Paul's constituents. It's not a pretty sight and quite plainly a clear example of urban blight. I didn't watch the debate but probably should have because I can only imagine the white-bread and lip service responses by the other candidates.
Say what you like about Karl Rove (I've probably said worse), but at least he understood that the GOP needs to envelop some of the Blacks and Latinos in order to survive long term. Everyone from that party other than Paul appears to disagree and looks to be exclusional in their approach.
Say what you like about Karl Rove (I've probably said worse), but at least he understood that the GOP needs to envelop some of the Blacks and Latinos in order to survive long term. Everyone from that party other than Paul appears to disagree and looks to be exclusional in their approach.
By: spam_vigilante
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why is it our society will never vote into a office a man like Ron Paul who is genuine, and what's to bring about some serious change for the country? why do we end up electing someone to simply maintain the status quo while only talking of change. we keep electing a new face, never a new idea...and that's why our country cannot grow.
but who wants it to grow? not the folks in charge...they want things to be as they always have been. and they don't realize that this is impossible. we have to grow and evolve as a country...and Ron Paul is a guy who understands that i think. yet even though he has my vote, and the votes of those who are willing to risk change for the benefit of all...he still doesn't have the votes of the majority. and that kills me.
but who wants it to grow? not the folks in charge...they want things to be as they always have been. and they don't realize that this is impossible. we have to grow and evolve as a country...and Ron Paul is a guy who understands that i think. yet even though he has my vote, and the votes of those who are willing to risk change for the benefit of all...he still doesn't have the votes of the majority. and that kills me.
By: macgregor
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Ron Paul is selfless, courageous, and passionate--more so than any of the other candidates--and yet I don't believe he has a chance at the presidency. It's that first quality of his that is his downfall in this election. We, as a nation, suffer from the bifurcation of a two-party system, where voter and candidate alike must chose which branch to hold on to, or risk falling into irrelevance.
Any candidate who attempts to start a new branch doesn't have a chance at beating both of the stronger parties, and thus voters risk 'wasting their vote' to support them. Ralph Nader's presidential campaign in '00 is a classic example of this. What's worse, some say he took votes from the lesser of two evils (the Dems), and thus helped Bush's campaign.
If Paul were more of a self-promoter, he might compromise some of his passions and beliefs in order to have a more general appeal, but instead he's got enough courage to go against convention, and thus owns a self-defeating integrity.
I truly believe he'd save American lives with his foreign policies. I believe he would strengthen our political system with new ideas. And, most of all, I have no doubt that he would do what he believes is best for our nation, rather than what might be best for his party or himself. I'm so frustrated I could scream, however, because I don't believe our system has a place for someone like him.
Any candidate who attempts to start a new branch doesn't have a chance at beating both of the stronger parties, and thus voters risk 'wasting their vote' to support them. Ralph Nader's presidential campaign in '00 is a classic example of this. What's worse, some say he took votes from the lesser of two evils (the Dems), and thus helped Bush's campaign.
If Paul were more of a self-promoter, he might compromise some of his passions and beliefs in order to have a more general appeal, but instead he's got enough courage to go against convention, and thus owns a self-defeating integrity.
I truly believe he'd save American lives with his foreign policies. I believe he would strengthen our political system with new ideas. And, most of all, I have no doubt that he would do what he believes is best for our nation, rather than what might be best for his party or himself. I'm so frustrated I could scream, however, because I don't believe our system has a place for someone like him.
By: Oh-Deeh
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The two party system is a natural development of the American electoral system. Starting another branch will most probably end up in either public embarrassment or the stealing of votes from a candidate who has similar but not identical views.
By: i8ursandwich
Re: Ron Paul Calls for End to Drug War
Why the hell is every debate or concern classed as a goddamn "WAR" in the USA? Sheesh for a country that so desperatley want's itself and others to live in peace I don't think going around labelling everything remotley contoversial as a "war" is helping.
By: PI55_FLAP5
Re: Ron Paul Calls for End to Drug War
Took me a second to figure out what you were saying. Before the 'Global War on Terror,' there was the War on Drugs. It's what it's been called since Nixon authorized the DEA and the military play an increased role in fighting the shipment of drugs into our borders. Maybe you're just very young and don't remember things like Barbara Bush's "Just say 'No'" campaign, or the entire plot of Clear and Present Danger.
By: Oh-Deeh
Re: Ron Paul Calls for End to Drug War
Everything you said is true. I wasn't saying that this "war" labelling had just started or it was the current administration. I was just saying is it really necessary to call it a "WAR", when ultimatley is just a big problem that needs sorting out. Hardly a "WAR". Also I'm 31
By: PI55_FLAP5
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It seemed like a "War" to one of the men I had under me in the Army when he was deployed to the Horn of Africa to fight the drug trafficking there.
...And sorry--the average age on this site is pretty young. I didn't mean to get nasty.
...And sorry--the average age on this site is pretty young. I didn't mean to get nasty.
By: Oh-Deeh
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His logic on blacks and the war on drugs is flawed.
By: ejayerik
Re: Ron Paul Calls for End to Drug War
From the Godless Liberal Homo blog
http://godlessliberalhomo.blogspot.com/2007/08/ron-pauls-anti-atheist-bigotry.html
Ron Paul has a swarm of zealots on the Internet, spewing pro-Paul propaganda in all sorts of liberal and progressive forums. The Paul worshipers will accurately point out his opposition to the Iraq War and the Unpatriotic Act, but they conveniently omit the vast majority of Paul's views, which are hateful and wacky right-wing. The deception is starting to offend a lot of liberals, and I'm one of them. After all, if Paul could get a 75% rating in 2005 from the “Family Research Council,” a Christian Right hate-group, that should give you some idea of where Paul really stands.
Here are some other ratings of interest:
* Secular Coalition for America: 20% (2004)
* Americans for the Arts Action Fund: 0% (2000, 01, 02, 03, 04)
* Leadership Conference on Civil Rights: 38% (2005)
* Human Rights Campaign: 25% (2003-04), 0% in previous years
* John Birch Society: 100% (2004-2006 in quarterly ratings, except for 88% in Spring 04)
* National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws: 14% (2004), 30% (2005)
* Campaign for America's Future: 0% (2005-06, energy issues)
* Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America: F (2006)
Bigotry Against Atheists
It should be noted that each of the following three positions contradict Paul's claims that he is a libertarian and that he supports individual freedom.
Opposes Restoring the Pledge of Allegience to the Version Without “Under God”
http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2002/pr062702.htm
Co-Sponsored Constitutional Amendment Pushing Coerced Prayer in the Public Schools
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d105:HJ00078:@@@L&summ2=m&
Voted to Allow Bigoted Alabama Judge to Post “Ten Commandments” in Courtroom
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/issues/votes/?votenum=257&chamber=H&congress=1091
Homophobia
Here are a couple of examples of Ron Paul's views, aside from his opposition to ENDA.
Opposes Hate Crimes Laws
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2007/tst050707.htm
Supports “Don't Ask, Don't Tell”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul#Gay_equality
Voted for Amendment Attempting to Block DC Government from Allowing Same-sex Partners to Adopt
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/issues/votes/?votenum=346&chamber=H&congress=1061
Other Right-Wing Extremism,
from his congressional web site:
Opposing Federal Funding for Stem Cell Research:
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2005/cr052405.htm
Anti-UN:
http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2006/pr061506.htm
Pro-Tax Cuts, Nearly All of Which Go to the Rich:
http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2006/pr042606.htm
Favors Cutting Gas Taxes:
http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2005/pr090705.htm
Against Corporate Accountability:
http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2005/pr041405.htm
http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2004/pr091604.htm
Glorifying Ronald Reagan:
http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2004/pr061004.htm
Supporting Corporate Efforts to Ship US Jobs to China
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2005/cr072605.htm
Attacking Gun Control and DC Self Rule
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2004/cr100404.htm
Anti-Union
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst98/tst072798.htm
http://godlessliberalhomo.blogspot.com/2007/08/ron-pauls-anti-atheist-bigotry.html
Ron Paul has a swarm of zealots on the Internet, spewing pro-Paul propaganda in all sorts of liberal and progressive forums. The Paul worshipers will accurately point out his opposition to the Iraq War and the Unpatriotic Act, but they conveniently omit the vast majority of Paul's views, which are hateful and wacky right-wing. The deception is starting to offend a lot of liberals, and I'm one of them. After all, if Paul could get a 75% rating in 2005 from the “Family Research Council,” a Christian Right hate-group, that should give you some idea of where Paul really stands.
Here are some other ratings of interest:
* Secular Coalition for America: 20% (2004)
* Americans for the Arts Action Fund: 0% (2000, 01, 02, 03, 04)
* Leadership Conference on Civil Rights: 38% (2005)
* Human Rights Campaign: 25% (2003-04), 0% in previous years
* John Birch Society: 100% (2004-2006 in quarterly ratings, except for 88% in Spring 04)
* National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws: 14% (2004), 30% (2005)
* Campaign for America's Future: 0% (2005-06, energy issues)
* Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America: F (2006)
Bigotry Against Atheists
It should be noted that each of the following three positions contradict Paul's claims that he is a libertarian and that he supports individual freedom.
Opposes Restoring the Pledge of Allegience to the Version Without “Under God”
http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2002/pr062702.htm
Co-Sponsored Constitutional Amendment Pushing Coerced Prayer in the Public Schools
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d105:HJ00078:@@@L&summ2=m&
Voted to Allow Bigoted Alabama Judge to Post “Ten Commandments” in Courtroom
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/issues/votes/?votenum=257&chamber=H&congress=1091
Homophobia
Here are a couple of examples of Ron Paul's views, aside from his opposition to ENDA.
Opposes Hate Crimes Laws
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2007/tst050707.htm
Supports “Don't Ask, Don't Tell”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul#Gay_equality
Voted for Amendment Attempting to Block DC Government from Allowing Same-sex Partners to Adopt
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/issues/votes/?votenum=346&chamber=H&congress=1061
Other Right-Wing Extremism,
from his congressional web site:
Opposing Federal Funding for Stem Cell Research:
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2005/cr052405.htm
Anti-UN:
http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2006/pr061506.htm
Pro-Tax Cuts, Nearly All of Which Go to the Rich:
http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2006/pr042606.htm
Favors Cutting Gas Taxes:
http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2005/pr090705.htm
Against Corporate Accountability:
http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2005/pr041405.htm
http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2004/pr091604.htm
Glorifying Ronald Reagan:
http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press2004/pr061004.htm
Supporting Corporate Efforts to Ship US Jobs to China
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2005/cr072605.htm
Attacking Gun Control and DC Self Rule
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2004/cr100404.htm
Anti-Union
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst98/tst072798.htm
By: Salt
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I don't back him on every issue, true. But you can really make a list like this for any candidate that's been in either the House or Senate. Obama said it best when he pointed to the fact that our system sets members of congress up for "bad votes." Things like the unchecked use of line items doesn't help.
My point is that just being willing to stand up to the "Israel lobby," as Mearsheimer put it, makes Paul a pretty impressive leader in my book. The fact that he recognizes that not only is our unchecked support of Israel killing Americans, but that saying so doesn't make you an antisemite, is refreshing enough to make me consider him.
Sometimes you have to weigh what's more important, and compromise on some issues.
My point is that just being willing to stand up to the "Israel lobby," as Mearsheimer put it, makes Paul a pretty impressive leader in my book. The fact that he recognizes that not only is our unchecked support of Israel killing Americans, but that saying so doesn't make you an antisemite, is refreshing enough to make me consider him.
Sometimes you have to weigh what's more important, and compromise on some issues.
By: Oh-Deeh
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Well the fact that this speech was at a historic balck college speaks volumes in itself.
By: ejayerik
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You gotta stop with the random fragments and explain yourself.
By: athomascrawley
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sigh.....
Ok children. Do you not think this was an obvious attempt to gain black votes by going to a historic black college, and getting these folks into thinking that they are the victims in this big bad world and that he was the only person who is on their side? Al Sharpton does this all the time. Oldest trick in the book. I only hope that not everybody there bought his junk.
Very old tactics that are as transparent as air.
Ok children. Do you not think this was an obvious attempt to gain black votes by going to a historic black college, and getting these folks into thinking that they are the victims in this big bad world and that he was the only person who is on their side? Al Sharpton does this all the time. Oldest trick in the book. I only hope that not everybody there bought his junk.
Very old tactics that are as transparent as air.
By: ejayerik
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He does a fair job of aping Mike Gravel's admirable stance here, but overall Paul is not the man for this country. Better than many options on the table, perhaps, but he's definitely no Gravel.
By: Avecrien
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Ron Paul is a crazy man. He is a crazy man that (probably) takes crazy pills. He seems unstable and erattic. My vote is for Ron Paul. If we are going to run this country into the ground, a crazy man might as well be behind the wheel. Seriously though, the thing that impressed me about this man is he is willing to admit he is wrong and change his stance on an issue once hes gone through the facts. Could Ron Paul be a rational thinker? Ron Paul might just be what the GOP needs. (I am not really voting for Ron Paul but I would if I were in his cluub.)
By: meat
