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Mr. Garrison: Merry Fucking Christmas
South Park song from Mister Hankey's Christmas Classics.
Dec 20, 2006 1:41 PM
Re: Mr. Garrison: Merry Fucking Christmas
He mentioned athiests at the end of the song. Do atheists celebrate some sort of present giving in december at all ? If there are any atheists reading this could you tell me cos i'm just kinda curious is all lol
By: D3NIS
Re: Mr. Garrison: Merry Fucking Christmas
I'm having a great four day weekend, thanQ.
But the bottom line is that every Christmas tradition is very much pagan in nature. Tree, lights (candles in the pre-electric days), gift giving, etc.
But the bottom line is that every Christmas tradition is very much pagan in nature. Tree, lights (candles in the pre-electric days), gift giving, etc.
By: spam_vigilante
Re: Mr. Garrison: Merry Fucking Christmas
Careful - I'm sure the pagans wouldn't want to be considered atheist.
But yes, I'm fairly atheist, at least in so far as I can't believe in most of the definitions of "God" - i.e. "big man in the sky" - no, but "personification of all goodness" - sure. I've really tried to believe - it would be wonderful if there was something mighty out there with a personal interest in my life - but so long as he/she/it continues to refuse/be incapable of/not talk directly with me, it just seems so much more likely an untrue idea thought up by human beings.
I'm trying to keep the presents down to a minimum this year. The fewer presents I get, the happier I've been with them. Few things depress me more than a big expensive pile of crap that seemed vaguely related to me by a person who felt obligated to buy me things. My friends were the first ones with whom I arranged to stop exchanging presents. My family first went to a $10 limit per person, but now has stopped giving presents altogether. Basically my wife is the only person I exchange with. Her job is so much harder than mine, however, because I generally only like useful things and already have pretty much all I need. Time and money are the two things I could use more of, and both are wasted at the mall.
So what does an atheist do this time of year? We work, visit friends and family, eat... pretty much what everyone else does. I'll put up decorations if they seem pretty, buy someone a present if I can think of something they'd like, and so on, but the motivation is purely worldly - making people happy, making things more colorful.
But yes, I'm fairly atheist, at least in so far as I can't believe in most of the definitions of "God" - i.e. "big man in the sky" - no, but "personification of all goodness" - sure. I've really tried to believe - it would be wonderful if there was something mighty out there with a personal interest in my life - but so long as he/she/it continues to refuse/be incapable of/not talk directly with me, it just seems so much more likely an untrue idea thought up by human beings.
I'm trying to keep the presents down to a minimum this year. The fewer presents I get, the happier I've been with them. Few things depress me more than a big expensive pile of crap that seemed vaguely related to me by a person who felt obligated to buy me things. My friends were the first ones with whom I arranged to stop exchanging presents. My family first went to a $10 limit per person, but now has stopped giving presents altogether. Basically my wife is the only person I exchange with. Her job is so much harder than mine, however, because I generally only like useful things and already have pretty much all I need. Time and money are the two things I could use more of, and both are wasted at the mall.
So what does an atheist do this time of year? We work, visit friends and family, eat... pretty much what everyone else does. I'll put up decorations if they seem pretty, buy someone a present if I can think of something they'd like, and so on, but the motivation is purely worldly - making people happy, making things more colorful.
By: cthomas
Re: Mr. Garrison: Merry Fucking Christmas
Exactly. What percentage of Christmas traditions really have anything to do with Christ, anyway? That Wii (or any year's "must have" toy) mom's been calling around to hopefully find in stock at 300% of MSRP? A tree with Hallmark commemorative Transformers ornaments on it? The story of Rudolf, with its message of conditional love? Let's face it; Christmas has been a secular holiday for generations. Don't get me wrong, I love Christmas. But then, the fact that I'm not a Christian says something about that.
By: Oh-Deeh
Re: Mr. Garrison: Merry Fucking Christmas
Well i am an Atheist and i celebrate Christmas for its gift giving properties. Plus most of my family is Christian, not that they get that much into it.
By: limm111
Re: Mr. Garrison: Merry Fucking Christmas
Nope, Christians do not have the copyrights to this holiday season. No one does, really. Societies change up the names, and a few details, of the gods they choose to worship, but the basic idea remains: community celebration.
History will prove that cultures always best assimilate other cultures by simply altering native traditions to mesh better with their own. This is why Christianity has so many old pagan traditions. When spreading the new faith, some stuff had to be flexible so the followers would adapt.
Nowadays, it's just like the others are saying: consumption and advertising are the new gods of the season. Coca-Cola Santa brings the gifts....and mom & dad pay off the credit cards in the New Year.
IMO this season is really about drugs and alcohol. Without those blessed things, we wouldn't have hallucinating reindeer in Lapland (look into this) and drunk uncles making wildly inappropriate comments at the dinner table.
So, Merry Xmas to all !
History will prove that cultures always best assimilate other cultures by simply altering native traditions to mesh better with their own. This is why Christianity has so many old pagan traditions. When spreading the new faith, some stuff had to be flexible so the followers would adapt.
Nowadays, it's just like the others are saying: consumption and advertising are the new gods of the season. Coca-Cola Santa brings the gifts....and mom & dad pay off the credit cards in the New Year.
IMO this season is really about drugs and alcohol. Without those blessed things, we wouldn't have hallucinating reindeer in Lapland (look into this) and drunk uncles making wildly inappropriate comments at the dinner table.
So, Merry Xmas to all !
By: EViLMinD


