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On the Letterman show, Jerry Seinfeld conceded some of his time to Michael Richards who apologized for racist remarks made during a stand up comedy routine earlier in the week.
Nov 21, 2006 2:19 AM
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This thing is all over the news. Yea its good that he apologized but he still said it. Lots of times we say whats on our mind when we're angry (or drunk). Do I think he meant it? Who knows.
And to make the situation worse, i dont think lots of people can really take him serious. The audience is laughing like this is a bit.
And to make the situation worse, i dont think lots of people can really take him serious. The audience is laughing like this is a bit.
By: jaydeejj
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It'll be interesting in the next few weeks to see how the entertainment community supports or blacklists Michael Richards in light of Mel Gibson's fiasco.
By: da-flotsam
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Here's a video of Richards' tirade:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-T7uKvpzVXI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-T7uKvpzVXI
By: ghost_dog5150
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Who offended more people, Micheal Richards or the person who released that video. The guy gets angry and offends a room full of people.Someone releases the video and offends a bunch of people atleast half of whom would never leave their own couch.
By: Caerid
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To me it seems like this video is a bit out of context since it starts in with him swearing and doesnt give any kind of lead in to the offenses.
As for the headline I thought it was a spoof of some sort and was waiting for a punchline that never came.
As for the headline I thought it was a spoof of some sort and was waiting for a punchline that never came.
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Meh... im a firm believer that the demons we cannot laugh at... will control us. The people who should be offended, if they can laugh this off, then his drunken remarks hold no power over them.
Simply laugh at him... not with him. And you win.
Simply laugh at him... not with him. And you win.
By: xardox
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Once I laughed at a demon, and he ate my eyeballs.
By: sasquatchbill
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If it's a "bit" then it's not very funny. I never thought he was funny to begin with, but this is just stupid.
Why did this make a Headline??
Why did this make a Headline??
By: CornPooper
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What he said on stage is no better than what the people on the balcony or in the audience said before and after his rant.
It's ok to call someone a cracker ass cracker or white boy, but not ok to call someone a nigger? Not ok to say 50 years ago we would have you by a tree, but ok to say I'm gunna kill you whitey?
I guess it is ok to be a racist as long as your not white.
I don't condone what he said, but the people who he was speaking to are even more guilty as he is for saying racist things. In fact, I heard more white boys and crackers than niggers.
Then again, I wasn't counting the black people who were calling each other nigga.
It's ok to call someone a cracker ass cracker or white boy, but not ok to call someone a nigger? Not ok to say 50 years ago we would have you by a tree, but ok to say I'm gunna kill you whitey?
I guess it is ok to be a racist as long as your not white.
I don't condone what he said, but the people who he was speaking to are even more guilty as he is for saying racist things. In fact, I heard more white boys and crackers than niggers.
Then again, I wasn't counting the black people who were calling each other nigga.
By: ejayerik
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So true. I was going to post something similiar to ejayerik but since I was beaten to the punch I'll just agree.
It's unfortunate that someone who is very funny and creative can make one mistake and be destroyed, while the retards who began the fracas by disrespecting his very livelihood are looked upon as poor innocent victims.
It's unfortunate that someone who is very funny and creative can make one mistake and be destroyed, while the retards who began the fracas by disrespecting his very livelihood are looked upon as poor innocent victims.
By: ROXYBOO
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This is what I don't get... selective racism. It's never okay for people to say something like Richards. But that standard is only applied to certain people. I'm not saying that certain ethnic minorities are not disadvantaged in this country - they are - but part of the reason racism perpetuates injustice is that we don't evenly apply the standard to hate all racism. It's okay for some people to be racist, not others. That's why our society is still racist. If we evenly apply that standard, holding all people accountable for remarks they make based on race, regardless of the race of the person, we'll come a little closer to equality. We can't pretend like reversing a standard is going to let anyone get ahead - it only makes us see and resent those of other races for being of another race even more.
By: raptureswild
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I'll agree with ejayerik, ROXYBOO, and raptureswild. I said this before on another site so I'll quote myself:
"There is a term coined by Bernard Goldberg called the 'License to Overkill'. When one group has predominantly suppressed another group and the tides of civil liberties come sweeping in, turning the world on its head, the previously suppressed group has acquired the right to say whatever it pleases against its suppressors without fear of reprisals. Note how the heckler isn't considered to have anything to apologize for."
And...
"Saying the word n*gger does not automatically qualify someone as a racist. Coincidentally, this is stereotyping. Immigrant has it right: choosing to use a slur considered by a number of people to be a racist slur does not automatically mean that person holds some racist ideology."
Sorry for the long post, guys.
"There is a term coined by Bernard Goldberg called the 'License to Overkill'. When one group has predominantly suppressed another group and the tides of civil liberties come sweeping in, turning the world on its head, the previously suppressed group has acquired the right to say whatever it pleases against its suppressors without fear of reprisals. Note how the heckler isn't considered to have anything to apologize for."
And...
"Saying the word n*gger does not automatically qualify someone as a racist. Coincidentally, this is stereotyping. Immigrant has it right: choosing to use a slur considered by a number of people to be a racist slur does not automatically mean that person holds some racist ideology."
Sorry for the long post, guys.
By: Overmann
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When a comedian takes the stage, hecklers are an inherent part of the job. Every comedian deals with it, and no matter how ignorant the heckler may be (as is the nature of the heckler), it in NO way justifies the overblown reaction of Richards, as he was the presumed professional, with the microphone in his hand, giving him a much larger soap box to stand on and spread filth from.
Furthermore, when the first truly vicious blow is thrown from the stage, in my opinion it is entirely justified to retaliate in whatever way the attacked party sees fit. This particular incident is not at all about social progress, its entirely about what to do in a dirty fight. Kramer threw the first blow and deserved whatever came back on him as hate only begets hate, as well it should, and always will.
As to racial harmony, get back to me when white people become a minority group. It is FAR more inflammatory for a member of the majority to oppress using unfounded hatred, than for the minority to do so, even if the majority is quick enough to cry foul when its done to them. That is one well earned License to Overkill, as little good as hatred does, for either side.
If anyone other than a black person uses the n-word in any other manner aside from referentially, it IMPLICITLY makes them racist. Period.
Even if you manage to find a way to convince yourself that all of what I have just said is an incorrect opinion, consider that a performer is in a position of power, and has the innate responsibility to rise above whatever ignorance is hurled at them, and in that he failed his duty much, much more than some random audience member, and should be held to blame that much more, at the most basic.
Furthermore, when the first truly vicious blow is thrown from the stage, in my opinion it is entirely justified to retaliate in whatever way the attacked party sees fit. This particular incident is not at all about social progress, its entirely about what to do in a dirty fight. Kramer threw the first blow and deserved whatever came back on him as hate only begets hate, as well it should, and always will.
As to racial harmony, get back to me when white people become a minority group. It is FAR more inflammatory for a member of the majority to oppress using unfounded hatred, than for the minority to do so, even if the majority is quick enough to cry foul when its done to them. That is one well earned License to Overkill, as little good as hatred does, for either side.
If anyone other than a black person uses the n-word in any other manner aside from referentially, it IMPLICITLY makes them racist. Period.
Even if you manage to find a way to convince yourself that all of what I have just said is an incorrect opinion, consider that a performer is in a position of power, and has the innate responsibility to rise above whatever ignorance is hurled at them, and in that he failed his duty much, much more than some random audience member, and should be held to blame that much more, at the most basic.
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As for throwing the first blow, from the story in the news (and not what is on the video as it started prior to recording) the persons on the balcony threw it. It was not an avarage heckle. They threw out a few crackers, and a white boy or two before Richards ever said anything to them at all. Not to mention you try to void the whole you started it routine by saying it is ok to heckle or that someone on stage should expect it.
Second, I will talk to you about being a minority because I live in LA. White people are a minority in Los Angeles County as a whole.
You seem to say that it is justified to say what ever you wish in response to the first blow. Although I do not agree, your logic dictates that Richards was in the right in his retaliation.
Second, I will talk to you about being a minority because I live in LA. White people are a minority in Los Angeles County as a whole.
You seem to say that it is justified to say what ever you wish in response to the first blow. Although I do not agree, your logic dictates that Richards was in the right in his retaliation.
By: ejayerik
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Your explination for the well pointed out example of "license to overkill" is junk plain and simple. To quote again, stupid is as stupid does". That about sums up retaliation, and any "right" to overkill.
Nigger is a word. It means iggnorant.
Cracker is a word. It is a food.
They can both be used in the same way. So why would calling someone a nigger be ANY different than calling someone a cracker?
I said it before and I will say it again. The people who said the word cracker and white boy are just as guilty in abuse of words as Richards when he said the word nigger. Doesn't matter what position he was in at the time, on stage, white, black, green, or what ever. The media makes Richards look like the only one who is to blame for being foolish.
This world is full of hypocrites. Some of the people in the audience are an example.
As for majority vers minority, sure, everyone has a voice. But I am not going to talk politics here. The world is never been a fair place for the little guy. But i'll be damned if someone will shove their crap is shoved down my thoat minority or majority. Try starting a "white student union" at any university and you will see what I mean.
Nigger is a word. It means iggnorant.
Cracker is a word. It is a food.
They can both be used in the same way. So why would calling someone a nigger be ANY different than calling someone a cracker?
I said it before and I will say it again. The people who said the word cracker and white boy are just as guilty in abuse of words as Richards when he said the word nigger. Doesn't matter what position he was in at the time, on stage, white, black, green, or what ever. The media makes Richards look like the only one who is to blame for being foolish.
This world is full of hypocrites. Some of the people in the audience are an example.
As for majority vers minority, sure, everyone has a voice. But I am not going to talk politics here. The world is never been a fair place for the little guy. But i'll be damned if someone will shove their crap is shoved down my thoat minority or majority. Try starting a "white student union" at any university and you will see what I mean.
By: ejayerik
40 acres and a Jackass
I knew I shouldn't have said a thing in response here, as it's exactly this brand of offended white pride that keeps you from seeing any other side to the argument beside your own.
The whole 'first blow' thing, was an opinion, not an argument. Those are the rules of fighting dirty as I see them.
As to whites being a minority, anywhere, even in Los Angeles, try it out on a national scale and then get back to me, again. The 'little guy that doesn't have it fair' is not so easily dismissed as a separate political issue when that 'little guy' IS YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE RACE. That is no small thing, and may be the whole point that you are missing (perhaps intentionally, perhaps just through ignorance).
To reiterate, Richards was in the position of power in this situation, and had 100 times more onus on him to rise above the heckle, as ignorant as the hecklers may have been. The 'average' heckler is no less offensive and obnoxious than this one clearly was, and in my opinion it is the responsibility of a performer to not abuse his soap box and access to a wider audience than the average man on the street has. That is why he is more at fault in this, and why he absolutely deserves to bear the brunt of this backlash, because just by virtue of him being on stage in the position he was in, he should have KNOWN better. And yes, every comedian SHOULD expect hecklers, and be prepared to deal with them. That is stand-up 101.
To clarify, since you don't see the difference, nigger does not actually just mean ignorant, though I clearly see how you could be misguided enough to minimize it in that way. It was (and is) a derogatory term used as part of a strategy invented by white slave owners to injure and dehumanize an entire race of people, to turn them into work animals through systematic degradation, and has been used quite effectively to that end for a very long time. There is absolutely nothing white people can be called that has the same impact as that, because the experiences are different, by miles.
And in that (I begrudgingly admit) you are right about one thing; crackers are just a food.
On a personal note ejayerik, even if your spelling wasn't atrocious and horrifying, your logic still would be. As I have said my piece and even have gone so far as to go back over it again for you, I'm now done with this endless debate, particularly on this forum. You and I wont end racial injustice here. In fact it seems to me, given the history involved, it may never end at all.
The whole 'first blow' thing, was an opinion, not an argument. Those are the rules of fighting dirty as I see them.
As to whites being a minority, anywhere, even in Los Angeles, try it out on a national scale and then get back to me, again. The 'little guy that doesn't have it fair' is not so easily dismissed as a separate political issue when that 'little guy' IS YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE RACE. That is no small thing, and may be the whole point that you are missing (perhaps intentionally, perhaps just through ignorance).
To reiterate, Richards was in the position of power in this situation, and had 100 times more onus on him to rise above the heckle, as ignorant as the hecklers may have been. The 'average' heckler is no less offensive and obnoxious than this one clearly was, and in my opinion it is the responsibility of a performer to not abuse his soap box and access to a wider audience than the average man on the street has. That is why he is more at fault in this, and why he absolutely deserves to bear the brunt of this backlash, because just by virtue of him being on stage in the position he was in, he should have KNOWN better. And yes, every comedian SHOULD expect hecklers, and be prepared to deal with them. That is stand-up 101.
To clarify, since you don't see the difference, nigger does not actually just mean ignorant, though I clearly see how you could be misguided enough to minimize it in that way. It was (and is) a derogatory term used as part of a strategy invented by white slave owners to injure and dehumanize an entire race of people, to turn them into work animals through systematic degradation, and has been used quite effectively to that end for a very long time. There is absolutely nothing white people can be called that has the same impact as that, because the experiences are different, by miles.
And in that (I begrudgingly admit) you are right about one thing; crackers are just a food.
On a personal note ejayerik, even if your spelling wasn't atrocious and horrifying, your logic still would be. As I have said my piece and even have gone so far as to go back over it again for you, I'm now done with this endless debate, particularly on this forum. You and I wont end racial injustice here. In fact it seems to me, given the history involved, it may never end at all.
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One last thing.
"There is a term coined by Bernard Goldberg called the 'License to Overkill'. When one group has predominantly suppressed another group and the tides of civil liberties come sweeping in, turning the world on its head, the previously suppressed group has acquired the right to say whatever it pleases against its suppressors without fear of reprisals. Note how the heckler isn't considered to have anything to apologize for."
In this theory, it presumes that civil liberties have come sweeping in, that the world has been turned on its head, and that the suppressed group is no longer suppressed. That is clearly a misunderstanding, as that isn't true in the least. Minorities are still suppressed, and civil liberties are still being fought for tooth and nail, every day. That alone is a justification for vengeance at the VERY least, in words.
I really am done now, as the ignorance and gall being expressed here and all over the net surrounding this issue is truly sickening to me. Still, I encourage anyone that sees what I'm getting at and agrees, to chime in against these floods of oppression masquerading as equality.
"There is a term coined by Bernard Goldberg called the 'License to Overkill'. When one group has predominantly suppressed another group and the tides of civil liberties come sweeping in, turning the world on its head, the previously suppressed group has acquired the right to say whatever it pleases against its suppressors without fear of reprisals. Note how the heckler isn't considered to have anything to apologize for."
In this theory, it presumes that civil liberties have come sweeping in, that the world has been turned on its head, and that the suppressed group is no longer suppressed. That is clearly a misunderstanding, as that isn't true in the least. Minorities are still suppressed, and civil liberties are still being fought for tooth and nail, every day. That alone is a justification for vengeance at the VERY least, in words.
I really am done now, as the ignorance and gall being expressed here and all over the net surrounding this issue is truly sickening to me. Still, I encourage anyone that sees what I'm getting at and agrees, to chime in against these floods of oppression masquerading as equality.
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I agree with ejayerik 100%
...and I'm black
...and I'm black
By: chocolate_face69
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um, he's crazy. he flipped out. said some unforgivable words. that's it.
next.
do i see OJ coming...?
next.
do i see OJ coming...?
By: bobolifoo
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While I'm not going to explain the psychology of it all, I can tell you that when Dave Chapelle, Eddie Murphy, or any other black comedian calls and audience member a nigger(or nigga I guess) that constitutes pure lighthearted fun.
When a rapper extolls the number of bitch ass nigga's(or niggers depending on the rhyme) that he/she is about to stab/shoot/slap/pop crystal with that shit is tight, yo.
Conversely, when some cracker says either version no matter the circumstances he/she should definitely be labeled a racist and dragged through the mud indefinitely.
When a rapper extolls the number of bitch ass nigga's(or niggers depending on the rhyme) that he/she is about to stab/shoot/slap/pop crystal with that shit is tight, yo.
Conversely, when some cracker says either version no matter the circumstances he/she should definitely be labeled a racist and dragged through the mud indefinitely.
By: ROXYBOO
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I can tell you that when Dave Chapelle, Eddie Murphy, or any other black comedian calls and audience member a nigger(or nigga I guess) that constitutes pure lighthearted fun.
This is such a BS argument. First of all, there are plenty of white comedians (e.g. George Carlin) who have used the word on stage with no controversy whatsoever.
Secondly, only part of the controversy is over Michael Richards' use of the word "nigger." He also made a particularly sickening reference to lynching.
Thirdly, his outburst did not occur in the context of a comedy bit. By his own admission, he was in a rage, filled with anger and hate.
Show me a black entertainer who has used racial slurs and made reference to racially-motivated murder while in a rage and come away from it with no criticism, then maybe you'll have a point.
This is such a BS argument. First of all, there are plenty of white comedians (e.g. George Carlin) who have used the word on stage with no controversy whatsoever.
Secondly, only part of the controversy is over Michael Richards' use of the word "nigger." He also made a particularly sickening reference to lynching.
Thirdly, his outburst did not occur in the context of a comedy bit. By his own admission, he was in a rage, filled with anger and hate.
Show me a black entertainer who has used racial slurs and made reference to racially-motivated murder while in a rage and come away from it with no criticism, then maybe you'll have a point.
By: quisph
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For years, racists have claimed there were physiological cognitive differences between themselves and other races. According to recent scientific articles, they were right! … but not in the way they thought. It seems that the empathy center of the brain is located in the prefrontal cortex. A lack of empathy, one of the root causes of racism, correlates with persons with limited development in these areas. Given that information, now look at Richards skull. Does is look like the front of his head is normal? Granted you can’t really tell by looking, but it kinda makes you wonder. Amateur visual psychiatry… we’re all about breaking new ground here at M&C. *shakes head* Those poor cognitively impaired racists… judging people on how they look.
Seriously, I think that society owes the downtrodden a leg up in society until the scales of equality are even. This includes taking the odd individual insult and doing our best to make the rest of them feel welcome in society. Don’t we have a responsibility to stop the reciprocating and often escalating exchange of hatred? I feel we do for many reasons, the very least of which is for ourselves.
That being said we also have the responsibility to treat them as individuals as well. This includes individual responsibility. In addition, by focusing on racism we sometimes create more racism and tension. By giving too much privilege to some groups, we may alienate them or create a reaction from mainstream groups. It is a type of balancing act that has no real balancing point. Someone, somewhere won’t like whatever stance is taken.
People are naturally attracted to winners and repulsed by losers. This is another recent fact uncovered by cognitive studies and goes a long way to explain some reasons behind continued racism in society. By viewing any group as victims, we naturally place them in a lower scale than ourselves. The victim should not be labelled a victim in order to prevent them being viewed as the loser. This includes the victim mentality sometimes exhibited by the oppressed. The main point is to not focus on the negative, but rather the benefits of the individual attributes of people. As far as the empowerment of groups by reclaiming formerly negative words, it is still up for debate. The real factor here is more about how the mainstream groups view the action.
No real true universal approach can be found. So no real answer other than treating each one as an individual case, treating each one as an individual person. The best approach is to help those that need and deserve help, and promote and embrace differing viewpoints. To promote individuality, equality and most of all, pie; not just for ourselves, but for all.
Seriously, I think that society owes the downtrodden a leg up in society until the scales of equality are even. This includes taking the odd individual insult and doing our best to make the rest of them feel welcome in society. Don’t we have a responsibility to stop the reciprocating and often escalating exchange of hatred? I feel we do for many reasons, the very least of which is for ourselves.
That being said we also have the responsibility to treat them as individuals as well. This includes individual responsibility. In addition, by focusing on racism we sometimes create more racism and tension. By giving too much privilege to some groups, we may alienate them or create a reaction from mainstream groups. It is a type of balancing act that has no real balancing point. Someone, somewhere won’t like whatever stance is taken.
People are naturally attracted to winners and repulsed by losers. This is another recent fact uncovered by cognitive studies and goes a long way to explain some reasons behind continued racism in society. By viewing any group as victims, we naturally place them in a lower scale than ourselves. The victim should not be labelled a victim in order to prevent them being viewed as the loser. This includes the victim mentality sometimes exhibited by the oppressed. The main point is to not focus on the negative, but rather the benefits of the individual attributes of people. As far as the empowerment of groups by reclaiming formerly negative words, it is still up for debate. The real factor here is more about how the mainstream groups view the action.
No real true universal approach can be found. So no real answer other than treating each one as an individual case, treating each one as an individual person. The best approach is to help those that need and deserve help, and promote and embrace differing viewpoints. To promote individuality, equality and most of all, pie; not just for ourselves, but for all.
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Wow, I go and get a job, and none of this celebrity wisdom of a washed-up TV character registers on my radar until I get a day off. So I gotta respond.
Sherp, I just gotta say, what is it w/the "N" word between the brothers? I don't say the "C" word when I'm in a crowd full of lesbians. Do men go around calling each other "Dickheads" in a nice way? Derogatory terms are used when there's some level of animosity involved. Richards obviously has some issues. But I also feel, if you dwell on some twat's ignorant bile, you give him some level of power. He's a dick, his career is in the crapper for good...karmic justice is done.
To TheEDUCATOR: I did not think I'd live to see the day where Phrenology was discussed as a viable form of modern-day psychology. Anatole France, one of the greatest minds of the 19th century, gave his body to science, and his tiny pickled brain is in some museum now, so it's not the size of the member, but the way that you use it...except when you're discussing strap-ons.
Okay...I've thrown enuff lighter fluid on this blaze; I'll sit back and warm the cockles of my heart over the resulting coals...
Sherp, I just gotta say, what is it w/the "N" word between the brothers? I don't say the "C" word when I'm in a crowd full of lesbians. Do men go around calling each other "Dickheads" in a nice way? Derogatory terms are used when there's some level of animosity involved. Richards obviously has some issues. But I also feel, if you dwell on some twat's ignorant bile, you give him some level of power. He's a dick, his career is in the crapper for good...karmic justice is done.
To TheEDUCATOR: I did not think I'd live to see the day where Phrenology was discussed as a viable form of modern-day psychology. Anatole France, one of the greatest minds of the 19th century, gave his body to science, and his tiny pickled brain is in some museum now, so it's not the size of the member, but the way that you use it...except when you're discussing strap-ons.
Okay...I've thrown enuff lighter fluid on this blaze; I'll sit back and warm the cockles of my heart over the resulting coals...
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I was joking about the shape of his head...the point was to see if people would check it....
Good point about that whole how you use it thing...but if the area of the brain primaily responsible by the majority for a certain function is lacking in activity or neural connections it correlates with a lack of that function in most people. This is of course unless the area is stimulated to change or the function is taken over by another part of the brain. A definite change in the structure of the neural network is required to do this... and that is done through changes in the pattern of behavior. So it is how you use it.
The point I was really trying to make was that THEY are the ones that are limited cognitively. Not that we SHOULD judge people based on head shape....I guess the irony got lost in the tubes.
Good point about that whole how you use it thing...but if the area of the brain primaily responsible by the majority for a certain function is lacking in activity or neural connections it correlates with a lack of that function in most people. This is of course unless the area is stimulated to change or the function is taken over by another part of the brain. A definite change in the structure of the neural network is required to do this... and that is done through changes in the pattern of behavior. So it is how you use it.
The point I was really trying to make was that THEY are the ones that are limited cognitively. Not that we SHOULD judge people based on head shape....I guess the irony got lost in the tubes.
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The "tubes"? To which tube are you referring? Heh.
So you're saying that Michael Richards, making such dense statements, doesn't use his gray matter as much as he uses his dick ? That would encompass most males since that is the only time they employ an organ strenuously. I think most men would agree w/me on this one to preserve the lineal strain, which is primarily the only reason for their existence, besides moving furniture and changing oil. Oh, no, wait: killing bugs. I forgot that one,
(I'm kidding, really. I'm very pro-men. They provide the comic relief in my day. Just ask my soon-to-be-ex-husband, He's a veritable laugh riot. )
So you're saying that Michael Richards, making such dense statements, doesn't use his gray matter as much as he uses his dick ? That would encompass most males since that is the only time they employ an organ strenuously. I think most men would agree w/me on this one to preserve the lineal strain, which is primarily the only reason for their existence, besides moving furniture and changing oil. Oh, no, wait: killing bugs. I forgot that one,
(I'm kidding, really. I'm very pro-men. They provide the comic relief in my day. Just ask my soon-to-be-ex-husband, He's a veritable laugh riot. )
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but a black man can get on stage and say whatever he wants about whatever race he like...
think about it... chappelle is god to races of any kind... and he talks so much trash on everyone... but from his mouth its humor... even if our raged buddy had said nigger in a more mell manored state he still would have been given hell for...
and then look back at mister d l hughley... who had his own night time special.. where even his commercials featured words like honkey and whitey....
why oppresion still occurs... cuz we air bs talk like that... because we sit back and think its funny... why beacuase we allow because we feel we are a superior race....
think about it... chappelle is god to races of any kind... and he talks so much trash on everyone... but from his mouth its humor... even if our raged buddy had said nigger in a more mell manored state he still would have been given hell for...
and then look back at mister d l hughley... who had his own night time special.. where even his commercials featured words like honkey and whitey....
why oppresion still occurs... cuz we air bs talk like that... because we sit back and think its funny... why beacuase we allow because we feel we are a superior race....
By: pingwen
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maybe we can look at the trash talk like this:
It is OK for me to talk trash about my own brother.
If Joe Blow comes up to me and trash talks about him he will likely leave with a fat lip.
Self trash talk may help the individual feel more powerful as well.
But at the end of the day the ball is still in the mainstreams court. If we view it as a negative action it may create negative views towards the group. If we view it as empowering then it is empowering for them and reduces racism. It does very little to actual empower them other than self empowerment. It still lets the mainstream decide. It is more an illusion of power. But it also tends to emphasize the differences and the oppression that a group has. This makes them look like a non-winner culture in some eyes. It is in that way that the talk is counter productive. So maybe it does more harm than good. The choice to use it however still remains within the group.
Call ME whitey? Go ahead! I give a crap. At the end of the day myself and others still view me as empowered. Therefore I am.
Talk sh*t about other oppressed races? You deserve the fat lip they give you. That includes specific white races that are still oppressed.
It is OK for me to talk trash about my own brother.
If Joe Blow comes up to me and trash talks about him he will likely leave with a fat lip.
Self trash talk may help the individual feel more powerful as well.
But at the end of the day the ball is still in the mainstreams court. If we view it as a negative action it may create negative views towards the group. If we view it as empowering then it is empowering for them and reduces racism. It does very little to actual empower them other than self empowerment. It still lets the mainstream decide. It is more an illusion of power. But it also tends to emphasize the differences and the oppression that a group has. This makes them look like a non-winner culture in some eyes. It is in that way that the talk is counter productive. So maybe it does more harm than good. The choice to use it however still remains within the group.
Call ME whitey? Go ahead! I give a crap. At the end of the day myself and others still view me as empowered. Therefore I am.
Talk sh*t about other oppressed races? You deserve the fat lip they give you. That includes specific white races that are still oppressed.
Re: Letterman: Michael Richards Apology
first things first, you all are racist. if you believe for one fact that blacks walk around degrading themselves qouting nigger nigger or cracker cracker you are wrong. I am BLACK. I don't use the word nigga, niggers or negro. I am apaulled in the way racism is still alive and well. You guys don't understand that you are the reason why the world is the way it is today. You keep racism alive. If you think that what that bastard said about my people was cool and alright you should get a fork stuck up your ass. All of you are weak and lost. I kn ow why you are not dissapointed in Kramer becuase, you are just like him.
LET ME EXPLAIN SOMETHING TO YOU. I LIVE AROUND BLACK AND WHITE PEOPLE ALL MY LIFE. BEING AROUND BOTH RACES I LEARNED A LOT. YES, THERE IS A DIFFRENCE BETWEEN THE TWO RACES. BLACKS DO HAVE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHITES BUT, NOT IN A HATEFUL MANNER. WHITES CONVERSATE ABOUT BLACKS BUT IN A HATEFUL MANNER. JUST AS YOU GUYS DID. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOUR SELF. BLACKS ARE MORE WILLING TO OPEN THERE HEARTS TO A WHITE PERSON. WHEN ON THE OTHER HAND, WHITES DON'T WANT TO. THE ONES THAT DO THIS THEY ARE THE TRUE NIGGERS/NIGGAS. YOU GUYS THAT THINK THAT KRAMER OUTBURST WAS A REBUTLE YOU ARE THE TRUE NIGGERS/NIGGAS.
LET ME EXPLAIN SOMETHING TO YOU. I LIVE AROUND BLACK AND WHITE PEOPLE ALL MY LIFE. BEING AROUND BOTH RACES I LEARNED A LOT. YES, THERE IS A DIFFRENCE BETWEEN THE TWO RACES. BLACKS DO HAVE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHITES BUT, NOT IN A HATEFUL MANNER. WHITES CONVERSATE ABOUT BLACKS BUT IN A HATEFUL MANNER. JUST AS YOU GUYS DID. YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOUR SELF. BLACKS ARE MORE WILLING TO OPEN THERE HEARTS TO A WHITE PERSON. WHEN ON THE OTHER HAND, WHITES DON'T WANT TO. THE ONES THAT DO THIS THEY ARE THE TRUE NIGGERS/NIGGAS. YOU GUYS THAT THINK THAT KRAMER OUTBURST WAS A REBUTLE YOU ARE THE TRUE NIGGERS/NIGGAS.
By: thebest
Re: Letterman: Michael Richards Apology
Thebest, I feel that you are a racist by calling EVERYONE a racist. I don't think anyone thinks that all blacks go around calling each other "niggaz".
What I feel keeps racism alive is people who feel that they are victims of it when they are not so they scream and shout until Jessie Jackson or the media gets involved with a lawsuit in hand.
Read what you comment on. Nobody likes what he said, but many think the media is making a one way street when IN FACT there was racist comments on both sides. And the fact that you want to stereotype us all as being duplicates of Kramer is in itself ignorant.
As for your caps lock, I'll refrain from commenting.
But the content, I must. So you are saying that when blacks talk about whites, it's all peaches and cream, but when whites talk about blacks, it's like fire and brimstone?
Myself being from the Los Angeles area, I can safely say I have lived among many races. And your point of view is out of this world. I don't know what happened to you that makes you think that "whitey" is out to get you but guess what? He is not. And just because you’re the guy who says "I am black" doesn't mean you speak for a whole race.
What I feel keeps racism alive is people who feel that they are victims of it when they are not so they scream and shout until Jessie Jackson or the media gets involved with a lawsuit in hand.
Read what you comment on. Nobody likes what he said, but many think the media is making a one way street when IN FACT there was racist comments on both sides. And the fact that you want to stereotype us all as being duplicates of Kramer is in itself ignorant.
As for your caps lock, I'll refrain from commenting.
But the content, I must. So you are saying that when blacks talk about whites, it's all peaches and cream, but when whites talk about blacks, it's like fire and brimstone?
Myself being from the Los Angeles area, I can safely say I have lived among many races. And your point of view is out of this world. I don't know what happened to you that makes you think that "whitey" is out to get you but guess what? He is not. And just because you’re the guy who says "I am black" doesn't mean you speak for a whole race.
By: ejayerik
Re: Letterman: Michael Richards Apology
I find it pretty funny that Jesse "himey-town" Jackson's ignorant ass can talk down to anyone for being racist.
By: ROXYBOO
Re: Letterman: Michael Richards Apology
this is stupid.these guys are going crazy at Richards and talk about how bad that word is but when Chris Rock or Dave Chappell says nigger they r praised.you can't let some people say words and other people not use them. But yes it was wrong
By: PI55_FLAP5
I think we can all agree on one thing
It's that Richard's fame and success as an actor/comedian came to an end with Seinfeld (how many of your remember his tv show? He misses the glory (after a decade of people kissing your ass it's got to be addicting on a level with heroin or cigarettes) and he's resentful that the general public has no more use for him (unless he starts giving Seinfeld tours in NYC and channels Don Rickles).
And finally, who in their right mind goes onto a late night talk show to issue an apology? A press conference or an appearance on CNN would've made more sense and reached a wider audience. Although I don't appreciate how he chose to express himself from the stage I find it an refreshing change of pace that he actually said exactly what was on his mind rather than hide behind the cloak of political correctness.
And finally, who in their right mind goes onto a late night talk show to issue an apology? A press conference or an appearance on CNN would've made more sense and reached a wider audience. Although I don't appreciate how he chose to express himself from the stage I find it an refreshing change of pace that he actually said exactly what was on his mind rather than hide behind the cloak of political correctness.
By: otterman47
