Milky Way vs Andromeda as Seen from Earth
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From HubbleCast. Scientists have been using Hubble observations to predict the future of the Andromeda Galaxy and the Milky Way, and how the collision will look from Earth. Projecting the motion of Andromeda's stars over the next 8 billion years, the astronomers now know the path that galaxy is taking through space. And it's heading straight for us! Computer simulations based on Hubble observations show how the two galaxies will crash together in around 4 billion years' time.
The Andromeda Galaxy, some 2.2 million light-years away, is the closest spiral galaxy to our home, the Milky Way. For around a century, astronomers have known it is moving towards us, but whether or not the two galaxies would actually collide, or simply fly past each other, remained unclear. Now, a team of astronomers has used the Hubble Space Telescope to shed light on this question, by looking at the motion stars in the Andromeda Galaxy.
We wanted to figure out how Andromeda was moving through space. So in order to do that we measured the location of the Andromeda stars relative to the background galaxies. In 2002 they were in one place, and in 2010 they were in a slightly different place. And that allowed us to measure the motion over a period of eight years.
The motion is actually incredibly subtle, and not obvious to the human eye, even when looking at Hubble's sharp images. However, sophisticated image analysis revealed tiny movements that the scientists were able to project into the future.
Based on these findings, it is finally possible to show what will happen to the Milky Way over the next eight billion years, as the galaxies drift closer, then collide and gradually merge into a single, larger, elliptical galaxy with reddish stars. And yet the Solar System should in fact survive this huge crash.
The reason we think that our Solar System will not be much affected by this collision between the Milky Way and Andromeda is that galaxies are mostly empty space.
Even though our galaxy, as well as the Andromeda Galaxy, has a hundred billion stars in it, they are very far apart. So if two galaxies actually collide with each other, the stars basically pass right between each other and the chance of two stars directly hitting each other is really, really small. So the likelihood that our Solar System will be directly impacted by another star, for example, in Andromeda as we collide with it is really, really small.
Well, if life is still present on Earth when this happens, the changes in the sky will be quite spectacular. Now they will be very very slow because the timescales on the scales of galaxies in the Universe are very very long. So you have to think, millions of years but even then over these timescales over millions of years, we will see big changes. If we wait a few billion years, Andromeda will be huge on the sky. It will be as big as our Milky Way because we'll be very close to it.
And then later, when the galaxies merge, the merged remnant of the Milky Way Galaxy and Andromeda will look more like an elliptical galaxy and we'll be sitting right in it.
So the view of the Milky Way on the night sky will be completely gone and this band of light will be replaced by a more spheroidal distribution of light.
And so, the Sun, born in the Milky Way almost 5 billion years ago will end its life in a new orbit, as part of a new galaxy.
The Andromeda Galaxy, some 2.2 million light-years away, is the closest spiral galaxy to our home, the Milky Way. For around a century, astronomers have known it is moving towards us, but whether or not the two galaxies would actually collide, or simply fly past each other, remained unclear. Now, a team of astronomers has used the Hubble Space Telescope to shed light on this question, by looking at the motion stars in the Andromeda Galaxy.
We wanted to figure out how Andromeda was moving through space. So in order to do that we measured the location of the Andromeda stars relative to the background galaxies. In 2002 they were in one place, and in 2010 they were in a slightly different place. And that allowed us to measure the motion over a period of eight years.
The motion is actually incredibly subtle, and not obvious to the human eye, even when looking at Hubble's sharp images. However, sophisticated image analysis revealed tiny movements that the scientists were able to project into the future.
Based on these findings, it is finally possible to show what will happen to the Milky Way over the next eight billion years, as the galaxies drift closer, then collide and gradually merge into a single, larger, elliptical galaxy with reddish stars. And yet the Solar System should in fact survive this huge crash.
The reason we think that our Solar System will not be much affected by this collision between the Milky Way and Andromeda is that galaxies are mostly empty space.
Even though our galaxy, as well as the Andromeda Galaxy, has a hundred billion stars in it, they are very far apart. So if two galaxies actually collide with each other, the stars basically pass right between each other and the chance of two stars directly hitting each other is really, really small. So the likelihood that our Solar System will be directly impacted by another star, for example, in Andromeda as we collide with it is really, really small.
Well, if life is still present on Earth when this happens, the changes in the sky will be quite spectacular. Now they will be very very slow because the timescales on the scales of galaxies in the Universe are very very long. So you have to think, millions of years but even then over these timescales over millions of years, we will see big changes. If we wait a few billion years, Andromeda will be huge on the sky. It will be as big as our Milky Way because we'll be very close to it.
And then later, when the galaxies merge, the merged remnant of the Milky Way Galaxy and Andromeda will look more like an elliptical galaxy and we'll be sitting right in it.
So the view of the Milky Way on the night sky will be completely gone and this band of light will be replaced by a more spheroidal distribution of light.
And so, the Sun, born in the Milky Way almost 5 billion years ago will end its life in a new orbit, as part of a new galaxy.
Jun 5, 2012 12:33 AM
Re: Milky Way vs Andromeda as Seen from Earth
Well, aside from your expected lifespan? I recall that our star has one of its own, roughly 5 billion years from now it will have exhausted all its hydrogen. This projected clip is some 8 billion into fast-forward mode.
By: spam_vigilante
Re: Milky Way vs Andromeda as Seen from Earth
Unless and until we discover life anywhere else in the universe it should probably be somewhat of a concern to all involved to get the only known forms of it off this ultimately doomed rock? Call me crazy...
By: scalpod
Re: Milky Way vs Andromeda as Seen from Earth
The video actually said that our solar system is unlikely to be harmed by the collision. I'd say that life on earth faces many other significant threats between now and that time anyway.
By: the_monk
Re: Milky Way vs Andromeda as Seen from Earth
I think spam just explained that our solar system will have been destroyed by our sun's going supernova 3 billion years before that view.
Either way the video was great :)
We may have earth based living descendants on many nearby systems by that time, and the view would be roughly the same from there :)
Either way the video was great :)
We may have earth based living descendants on many nearby systems by that time, and the view would be roughly the same from there :)
By: Voidwar
Re: Milky Way vs Andromeda as Seen from Earth
I forgot to add that by that time, I will be thawed once every thousand years and control all your descendants lives and efforts from my cryonic chamber supermega corporate fortress in the glitter band . . .
I will cherish most of them . . .
I will cherish most of them . . .
By: Voidwar
Re: Milky Way vs Andromeda as Seen from Earth
Our sun doesn't have enough mass to go supernova.
It will go through a red giant phase instead.
It will go through a red giant phase instead.
By: runawayuniverse
Re: Milky Way vs Andromeda as Seen from Earth
Hey, you are absolutely right.
Who do you think you are correcting someone who was trying to correct someone ? :)
Red giant consumes earth's orbit in theory correct ? Either that or incinerates and tears apart from Tidal shear I believe, either way, thanks for the heads up.
Who do you think you are correcting someone who was trying to correct someone ? :)
Red giant consumes earth's orbit in theory correct ? Either that or incinerates and tears apart from Tidal shear I believe, either way, thanks for the heads up.
By: Voidwar
Re: Milky Way vs Andromeda as Seen from Earth
Yes, from what I understand the sun will go red giant and essentially consume the inner planets.
By: the_monk
Re: Milky Way vs Andromeda as Seen from Earth
You put forth the proposition that our local star woulld go supernova. You were wrong.
Fucking admit it. Be a man instead of a shit worm. Going red giant is not supernova.
No, VoidStink. You think your shit does not smell. Grow up. You were wrong. Admit it.
Grow up.
Fucking admit it. Be a man instead of a shit worm. Going red giant is not supernova.
No, VoidStink. You think your shit does not smell. Grow up. You were wrong. Admit it.
Grow up.
By: spam_vigilante
Re: Milky Way vs Andromeda as Seen from Earth
Ok, you just posted this, but I am the one that needs to grow up ?
Have I understood you correctly here spam ?
Have I understood you correctly here spam ?
By: Voidwar