History of U.S. Intervention in Iran: 1953 until Present
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This video is a basic overview of U.S. imperialism toward Iran that began at the behest of the British Government and big oil interests including British Petroleum also recently known as BP.
The United States' own CIA led it's first coup to overthrow a foreign leader against Mohammad Mosaddegh in 1953, The U.S. has suffered "Blowback: ever since, all the while the supposed leaders in Washington continue to demonize Iran's leaders on flimsy grounds as more pretense to continued Middle East war and occupation by the U.S.
The United States' own CIA led it's first coup to overthrow a foreign leader against Mohammad Mosaddegh in 1953, The U.S. has suffered "Blowback: ever since, all the while the supposed leaders in Washington continue to demonize Iran's leaders on flimsy grounds as more pretense to continued Middle East war and occupation by the U.S.
Mar 30, 2011 11:59 AM
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Amazing how few people are even aware of this - even more amazing is how many will not accept this truth.
By: MondoDeluxx
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Amazing how few people are aware of who actually deposed the shaw.
Was it a crowd of CIA agents or BP exexutives who stormed the Mossadegh residence in Tehran on August 19th? Nope. They were the backers of the coup.
What this clip deliberately fails to point out is that there was a rebellious political faction of Iranians who had split with mossadegh years earlier, known as the "Fedayeen Islam." They were founded by Navvab Safavi, who is now revered as a Shi'ite saint. They were the populist force who were responsible for swaying public opinion to back the Shah and oust Mossadegh from Parliament. They even recieved direct payments from the Americans to organize the protests.
Later, the Fedayeen Islam became known as the "Iranian Revolutionary Party." That's right, the very same political faction (in fact many of the very same people) who overthrew Mossadegh also overthrew the Shah 25 years later.
The Grand Ayatolla Kashani, who was the forebearer and mentor of Ayatolla Khomeni even told the BBC in 1953 that Mossadegh was an "enemy of Islam" and would be hunted down, tried under sharia as an apostate and executed. He also praised the Shah as a "Muslim Hero."
Obviously the romance between the shah and the Islamists didn't last, but it is laughable to suggest that the hatred for America today is derived from America's support to overthrow the beloved Mossadegh.
Here is a decent summary from PBS:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2009/08/history-used-and-abused.html
Was it a crowd of CIA agents or BP exexutives who stormed the Mossadegh residence in Tehran on August 19th? Nope. They were the backers of the coup.
What this clip deliberately fails to point out is that there was a rebellious political faction of Iranians who had split with mossadegh years earlier, known as the "Fedayeen Islam." They were founded by Navvab Safavi, who is now revered as a Shi'ite saint. They were the populist force who were responsible for swaying public opinion to back the Shah and oust Mossadegh from Parliament. They even recieved direct payments from the Americans to organize the protests.
Later, the Fedayeen Islam became known as the "Iranian Revolutionary Party." That's right, the very same political faction (in fact many of the very same people) who overthrew Mossadegh also overthrew the Shah 25 years later.
The Grand Ayatolla Kashani, who was the forebearer and mentor of Ayatolla Khomeni even told the BBC in 1953 that Mossadegh was an "enemy of Islam" and would be hunted down, tried under sharia as an apostate and executed. He also praised the Shah as a "Muslim Hero."
Obviously the romance between the shah and the Islamists didn't last, but it is laughable to suggest that the hatred for America today is derived from America's support to overthrow the beloved Mossadegh.
Here is a decent summary from PBS:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2009/08/history-used-and-abused.html
By: poonhound
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u kno everythin dontchu?
Re: History of U.S. Intervention in Iran: 1953 until Present
I'm not quite sure what you're complaining about. The fact that the video left a tiny detail out (a detail that is insignificant to the overall point) doesn't change the historical accuracy of what the video is showing us, which is a good overview of the origins of interventionist US policy in the Middle East.
The CIA has an unhealthy history of snaking its way into the politics of other nations, and the fact that nothing was mentioned of Fedayeen Islam doesn't make it less true in this case.
I have to assume you're one of those people who think Muslim extremists only hate us for our freedoms.
The CIA has an unhealthy history of snaking its way into the politics of other nations, and the fact that nothing was mentioned of Fedayeen Islam doesn't make it less true in this case.
I have to assume you're one of those people who think Muslim extremists only hate us for our freedoms.
By: Baphomet73
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First of all, it is not a "tiny" or "insignificant" detail that they left out. It is the lynchpin of the primary argument as to why the current Iranian regime is so virulently anti-american.
I am not apologizing for clandestine American operations overseas. But when the Islamists of Iran WANTED those interventions and ASKED for our help in opposing a common foe, they cannot be considered victims of imperialism.
Are the anti-Ghaddafi rebels of Lybia today the victims of Obama's imperialist ambitions because American air-strikes are single handedly resposible for saving their very lives and enabling their revolution to continue onward towards Tripoli?
By the way. I believe that Muslim extremists hate us for the same reasons they hated Mossadegh and the Shah. We disable their own imperialist ambitions of establishing a brutal Islamic tyranny wherever they can. In the immediate term, that means Israel, but it wont stop there.
I'm assuming you're one of those people who has never read the Koran or the Hatith or has never investigated the life of Mohammad, all-the-while trying to imagine interpreting these scriptures as an evangelical christian would interpret the book of Genesis.
I am not apologizing for clandestine American operations overseas. But when the Islamists of Iran WANTED those interventions and ASKED for our help in opposing a common foe, they cannot be considered victims of imperialism.
Are the anti-Ghaddafi rebels of Lybia today the victims of Obama's imperialist ambitions because American air-strikes are single handedly resposible for saving their very lives and enabling their revolution to continue onward towards Tripoli?
By the way. I believe that Muslim extremists hate us for the same reasons they hated Mossadegh and the Shah. We disable their own imperialist ambitions of establishing a brutal Islamic tyranny wherever they can. In the immediate term, that means Israel, but it wont stop there.
I'm assuming you're one of those people who has never read the Koran or the Hatith or has never investigated the life of Mohammad, all-the-while trying to imagine interpreting these scriptures as an evangelical christian would interpret the book of Genesis.
By: poonhound
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Yes, that detail is quite insignificant to the overall point of the video, whether you want to admit it or not. As a part of the overall history of Iran, it's very important. But its inclusion in said video would have had zero impact on the subject at hand: the CIA ultimately intervened in Iranian politics and began a downward spiral of questionable political intervention that has negatively affected US-Iran relations to this day.
The video wasn't about the friggin' Fedayeen Islam, or Israel for that matter. Nitpicking is not necessary to get the gist of the video's presentation, which was concise and accurate enough to make sense to anyone who has a proper knowledge of 20th century history.
While I haven't bothered to read the Koran, and I could care less about whether Mohammed was a child rapist and mass murderer, my knowledge of US history is extensive. And while you can claim to be considerably immersed in Muslim history, your opinion is colored by a blatant right-wing view, and that view in turn colors your interpretation of the video.
I may be a new member of this site, but I've been visiting long enough to know the kind of illogical crap you're going to pull out of your ass in defense of your blind ideology. You need to lay off the cocaine, man, It's making you paranoid.
The video wasn't about the friggin' Fedayeen Islam, or Israel for that matter. Nitpicking is not necessary to get the gist of the video's presentation, which was concise and accurate enough to make sense to anyone who has a proper knowledge of 20th century history.
While I haven't bothered to read the Koran, and I could care less about whether Mohammed was a child rapist and mass murderer, my knowledge of US history is extensive. And while you can claim to be considerably immersed in Muslim history, your opinion is colored by a blatant right-wing view, and that view in turn colors your interpretation of the video.
I may be a new member of this site, but I've been visiting long enough to know the kind of illogical crap you're going to pull out of your ass in defense of your blind ideology. You need to lay off the cocaine, man, It's making you paranoid.
By: Baphomet73
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Well, the entire Iranian theocracy has actually bothered to read the Koran, and they certainly do care about Mohammad, as every action they make and word they speak is directly inspired by them. And that is the point. Its not about you. The Islamist theocracy's "right wing view" is what colors their opinion about everything, including their hosility towards the west. To ignore this fact is sheer lunacy.
Whether the producers want to admit it or not, this video IS most certainly about the Fedayeen Islam since they were the force that actually took down Mossadegh, albeit with American assistance, and the 1953 coup is the central theme of this video.
It would be as if a video was produced about the Soviet involvement in the coup against Batista but failed to mention Fidel Castro and the guerillas. It is still a major part of the story.
By the way, you didn't answer my question about Lybia. At the time I asked, I thought it should be rhetorical, as the point I was making should have been obvious; however, the point seems to have completely missed you, so I am genuinely curious.
So what do you say? 25 years from now, will the progeny of these Lybian rebels have a legitimate grievance against America because of today's military involvement that has actually supported their cause?
Whether the producers want to admit it or not, this video IS most certainly about the Fedayeen Islam since they were the force that actually took down Mossadegh, albeit with American assistance, and the 1953 coup is the central theme of this video.
It would be as if a video was produced about the Soviet involvement in the coup against Batista but failed to mention Fidel Castro and the guerillas. It is still a major part of the story.
By the way, you didn't answer my question about Lybia. At the time I asked, I thought it should be rhetorical, as the point I was making should have been obvious; however, the point seems to have completely missed you, so I am genuinely curious.
So what do you say? 25 years from now, will the progeny of these Lybian rebels have a legitimate grievance against America because of today's military involvement that has actually supported their cause?
By: poonhound
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I'm sure that some Libyans will think that America's actions were good and other's will believe that we helped a rogue political group overthrow their government. All I know is that the US government has lied about so much shit and we've been going around doing evil shit for so long that maybe we should just chill out for a long while. Our history of foreign policy includes dropping nukes on cities by the way.
By: KeyserSosay
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I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't trust our foreign policy decisions.
By: KeyserSosay
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> "What this clip deliberately fails to point out is that there was a rebellious political faction of Iranians who had split with mossadegh years earlier, known as the Fedayeen Islam."
I see.
So the CIA covertly supported radical Islamists to overthrow democracy and install autocracy?
Oh well... What's the worst that could happen?
I see.
So the CIA covertly supported radical Islamists to overthrow democracy and install autocracy?
Oh well... What's the worst that could happen?
Re: History of U.S. Intervention in Iran: 1953 until Present
Oh the irony!
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Although I knew of the history and timeline, I'd still like to give this clip about 15*.
By: spam_vigilante
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As the argument above shows, it's hard to pin down history. There are so many interested parties and my including or excluding one fact, you can change the whole character of the argument. I wonder, is there a Scientific Method for the study of History?
Bottom line, I found this video very interesting and informative, and since it was narrated by such a nice young lady, it must be 100% true.
Bottom line, I found this video very interesting and informative, and since it was narrated by such a nice young lady, it must be 100% true.
By: PalmBayChuck
