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A dozen video clips adorn this site of the engine at work.
Supposedly non-polluting.
Sounds like a hoax to me.
Supposedly non-polluting.
Sounds like a hoax to me.
Dec 9, 2004 11:25 AM
Re: GM's TS-2000 Motor/Generator
I'm not convinced that it's a hoax, but I'm also not convinced it's that much better than a standard DC motor. They need to show me side-by-side stats before I'll believe this is anything more than a noisy DC motor.
By: RedRocketWestie
Re: GM's TS-2000 Motor/Generator
I take every story like this with a healthy dose of skepticism. But this one in particular. It sounds too much like another "perpetual motion machine". But hey, I've been wrong several times before and I guarantee to be so in the future.
By: spam_vigilante
Re: GM's TS-2000 Motor/Generator
It sounds like they are saying that they can take a small source of DC electricity and produce a much larger amount of energy in the form of AC electricity. This claim is common in perpetual motion scams. Apparently, you have to be very careful when measuring AC output, or you can be fooled (or fool others) into thinking you've produced more energy than you've put in.
You have to read the technical descriptions to get a sense of what this really is. It appears to be a very high efficiency DC electric motor that doesn't lose a lot of energy through heat. That, if true, is pretty useful. But their broad claims of solving the world's energy problems is just weird. The device is NOT a generator. Their technical description says "This unit shall also be capable of turning a standard AC generator to produce conventional AC power and thus provide power for remote locations operating only from standard 12VDC batteries."
In other words, you can convert 12 volt CD into household current. Where you get the energy to charge those batteries is up to you. In other words, you have to use wind, or hydro, or coal, or petroleum, or nuclear, or solar to turn a DC generator. You store the energy in batteries, then use it to turn this motor, which turns an AC generator. You're better off if you just use the original sources of energy to turn the AC generator. They say it doesn't require "substantial batteries," which suggests they're talking about perpetual motion, which is also suggested by their claim that they can, potentially, eliminate ALL of the energy consumption currently taken up by electric motors.
You have to read the technical descriptions to get a sense of what this really is. It appears to be a very high efficiency DC electric motor that doesn't lose a lot of energy through heat. That, if true, is pretty useful. But their broad claims of solving the world's energy problems is just weird. The device is NOT a generator. Their technical description says "This unit shall also be capable of turning a standard AC generator to produce conventional AC power and thus provide power for remote locations operating only from standard 12VDC batteries."
In other words, you can convert 12 volt CD into household current. Where you get the energy to charge those batteries is up to you. In other words, you have to use wind, or hydro, or coal, or petroleum, or nuclear, or solar to turn a DC generator. You store the energy in batteries, then use it to turn this motor, which turns an AC generator. You're better off if you just use the original sources of energy to turn the AC generator. They say it doesn't require "substantial batteries," which suggests they're talking about perpetual motion, which is also suggested by their claim that they can, potentially, eliminate ALL of the energy consumption currently taken up by electric motors.
