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This is a video of an encounter I had with police in the village of Port Dickinson in New York State.
I was "pulled over" while inline skating and told that this activity was illegal under a local ordinance. I have since placed an inquiry with the village code enforcement officer and found that there is no such law.
The officer who pulled me over asked me for ID and I refused to show it. He called two other officers to the scene.
I was "pulled over" while inline skating and told that this activity was illegal under a local ordinance. I have since placed an inquiry with the village code enforcement officer and found that there is no such law.
The officer who pulled me over asked me for ID and I refused to show it. He called two other officers to the scene.
Oct 8, 2009 11:57 PM
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Agree with Justin or not, that is an excellent example of civil disobedience. Good for him.
By: ice-9
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Fascist cops. They'll get their just reward. One day Justin will skate down the middle of the fucking road and that's to evade all the rotting bodies in the gutter.
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Rotten, jaded, bully cops? Whooda thunk it?
I also love how they insult Justin, use group pressure, and try to use his words against him in a juvenile way.
Port Dickinson? You need new pigs.
I also love how they insult Justin, use group pressure, and try to use his words against him in a juvenile way.
Port Dickinson? You need new pigs.
By: Count_Bubba
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Only one of them was Port Dick. The other two were county. They're no different from the cops anywhere in America. Except they didn't beat him and then lock him up without medical care, or shoot him and plant a weapon on his body.
Cops rarely follow the law.
He says his camera was recording off-site. I don't know if he was bluffing, but I'd like to carry one of those around with me.
Wouldn't want to end up like these two:
http://www.villagevoice.com/2002-11-05/news/cop-watchers-beware/1
Cops rarely follow the law.
He says his camera was recording off-site. I don't know if he was bluffing, but I'd like to carry one of those around with me.
Wouldn't want to end up like these two:
http://www.villagevoice.com/2002-11-05/news/cop-watchers-beware/1
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Yep, that seems about right for a major metropolitan area in These United States in AD 2009. Intimidate and abuse the filthy "civilians" who are trying to hold you accountable for your questionable actions.
For the pigs there will be cop lawyers who specialize in parsing arguments and throwing up smoke screens. There is a cop administration who will give a paid leave to keep them out of sight so the public and press will forget... No one will be punished. Nothing will change.
Cops are the lowest form of life there is. Who becomes a cop except for a would-be bully? Serve and protect, my ass. Cops want to exert power and control over a compliant populace, and kick the shit out of lawbreakers and minorities. And get away with it every time.
Trust me, I live in Chicago. The most cop-rotten city in Amerikkka.
For the pigs there will be cop lawyers who specialize in parsing arguments and throwing up smoke screens. There is a cop administration who will give a paid leave to keep them out of sight so the public and press will forget... No one will be punished. Nothing will change.
Cops are the lowest form of life there is. Who becomes a cop except for a would-be bully? Serve and protect, my ass. Cops want to exert power and control over a compliant populace, and kick the shit out of lawbreakers and minorities. And get away with it every time.
Trust me, I live in Chicago. The most cop-rotten city in Amerikkka.
By: Count_Bubba
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"To serve and protect Chicago Police" That's what their car markings read. I lived in Chicago for a few years.
A couple of those uniformed guys came up to me one day and started going through my pockets and wallet without a word of explanation. I guess they didn't find what they were looking for, they handed back my stuff in a little pile and walked away. They didn't even keep any of the cash, which I thought was decent of them.
This other time, one of them hauled me in to the hoosegow for bicycling in a way he didn't like. After a few minutes of not believing that an adult couldn't possibly have a driver's license, the sergeant walked in and went into a tirade. "What the fuck? Who the fuck's been eating garlic? You been eating garlic? Get the fuck out of my station!" Cool. I had to walk a few miles back to my bike, but I'd have to do that anyway, since the cops don't have to bring you back to where they abducted you from. Plus the one who brought me in gave me a receipt for $50 which I never gave him, so the accounting looks like he pocketed it. (That is, unless it's customary to always pocket any takings.) I applied that imaginary $50 against that imaginary $50 traffic infraction. It seemed only fair.
Next time there's a festival in Grant Park, watch what they do with all the beer they take out of everybody's cooler. Their job is to enforce the no alcohol in the park rule, so the mayor's mafia buddies can more effectively vend overpriced cheap alcohol in the no-alcohol park. But watch where the beer goes when they take it. The image of a half-dozen marked police cars with their trunks and back seats weighed down with beer bottles is priceless.
I gotta disagree though. Cops are a good two steps up from prison guards.
A couple of those uniformed guys came up to me one day and started going through my pockets and wallet without a word of explanation. I guess they didn't find what they were looking for, they handed back my stuff in a little pile and walked away. They didn't even keep any of the cash, which I thought was decent of them.
This other time, one of them hauled me in to the hoosegow for bicycling in a way he didn't like. After a few minutes of not believing that an adult couldn't possibly have a driver's license, the sergeant walked in and went into a tirade. "What the fuck? Who the fuck's been eating garlic? You been eating garlic? Get the fuck out of my station!" Cool. I had to walk a few miles back to my bike, but I'd have to do that anyway, since the cops don't have to bring you back to where they abducted you from. Plus the one who brought me in gave me a receipt for $50 which I never gave him, so the accounting looks like he pocketed it. (That is, unless it's customary to always pocket any takings.) I applied that imaginary $50 against that imaginary $50 traffic infraction. It seemed only fair.
Next time there's a festival in Grant Park, watch what they do with all the beer they take out of everybody's cooler. Their job is to enforce the no alcohol in the park rule, so the mayor's mafia buddies can more effectively vend overpriced cheap alcohol in the no-alcohol park. But watch where the beer goes when they take it. The image of a half-dozen marked police cars with their trunks and back seats weighed down with beer bottles is priceless.
I gotta disagree though. Cops are a good two steps up from prison guards.
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wow i had no idea that you were normal. that cop certainly worked a long day, and i suppose after all the bullshit he puts up with, he probably was trying his hardest to keep it together. they should not be making cops work those hours, because of burnout. i mean cmon! who is administering the force there? is that common in america? to keep cops out on the beat for long periods of time to burn them out? seems weird to me. plus, kudos in trying to maintain your illusion of freedom
By: ritterkreuz
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By NYS standards, these two officers are complete TEDDY BEARS!
By: shitba
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"Move to Canada if you don't like it here" - Amen Mr Officer
By: SamPike
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After having cops arrest me without cause, blatantly and repeatedly lie on the police report to put me in a hole I have an earned and healthy distrust of anyone with a badge. I had to fight it all in court, and I won because I had multiple witnesses who saw what really happened and refuted the outright lies the police told. Thankfully I wasn't alone that night or they would have been able to do whatever the hell they wanted.
No, they're not all bad. But I don't give a damn if Mr. Officer is tired, or annoyed or overworked. None of those give him the right to deprive us of OUR rights. That badge means he is required to protect our rights - all the time - not shit on them just because he's had a long day, or was given too many wedgies in grade school, or his mommy didn't hug him enough.
To turn the tables on Officer "love it or leave it", if his job is so f@$%ing hard, or so annoying... he needs to leave it and do something else.
No, they're not all bad. But I don't give a damn if Mr. Officer is tired, or annoyed or overworked. None of those give him the right to deprive us of OUR rights. That badge means he is required to protect our rights - all the time - not shit on them just because he's had a long day, or was given too many wedgies in grade school, or his mommy didn't hug him enough.
To turn the tables on Officer "love it or leave it", if his job is so f@$%ing hard, or so annoying... he needs to leave it and do something else.
By: decavolt
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I was told by the court that filing a civil suit against the police would be "pointless". Conveniently for the cops, the police report was expunged. The court didn't just dismiss the case against me, it was purged from record with the reasoning that the police report it was based on was inaccurate. Golly gee, thanks for disappearing my case, but since it was wiped that meant the police report was toast too… and thus couldn't be used by me as evidence to file a suit against the police. When I pressed the issue I was told my case was resolved and was instructed to leave the court house. You can imagine how cheerful I was that day.
If I had filed suit afterward, it would have been my word against 3 police and no police report to even prove that the incident happened in the first place. Nice, eh? This is how the system protects its own ass while f**king us in ours.
Later that year I was pulled over by the cops a dozen times in that same city, often twice in the same day, without ever being given a ticket or charged with anything. What a coincidence. I remember asking one female cop that had pulled me over (15 minutes after I was stopped by another cop a mile away) why I was being harassed. She calmly said she didn't know what I was talking about.
If I had filed suit afterward, it would have been my word against 3 police and no police report to even prove that the incident happened in the first place. Nice, eh? This is how the system protects its own ass while f**king us in ours.
Later that year I was pulled over by the cops a dozen times in that same city, often twice in the same day, without ever being given a ticket or charged with anything. What a coincidence. I remember asking one female cop that had pulled me over (15 minutes after I was stopped by another cop a mile away) why I was being harassed. She calmly said she didn't know what I was talking about.
By: decavolt
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We require truck drivers and airline pilots to sleep. Why is the guy with the fast car and big gun kept on duty for 25 hour shifts and a bag of amphetamines? Who the fuck makes these schedules? And why are these scumbags allowed to continue to be cops? In some countries, being a cop is a professional job that requires a real education.
I was once arrested in San Francisco for allegedly enhancing an advertising billboard. ("Bend over spread your cheeks and cough three times.") They lied all over their report, attributing statements to me that were never said, and claiming they saw me do stuff that never took place. That's just how it's done.
Their job is not to do anything constructive. Their job is to arrest people and get them convicted of crimes. (That, and extrajudicial intimidation, beatings and killings.) But what's really amazing is that their court testimony is usually given more weight than testimony from a human, despite the structurally engineered conflict of interest. Judges see them all the time, and know a cop's job is to lie lie lie. They've seen them caught in lies in front of their own bench. But the judges' jobs are also to convict people so it's nice and cozy-like.
Good thing you had a busload of nuns and a PTA schoolmarm meeting on the scene, Decavolt. I'm assuming that cop is now in prison for perjury, right? Riiiight.
I was once arrested in San Francisco for allegedly enhancing an advertising billboard. ("Bend over spread your cheeks and cough three times.") They lied all over their report, attributing statements to me that were never said, and claiming they saw me do stuff that never took place. That's just how it's done.
Their job is not to do anything constructive. Their job is to arrest people and get them convicted of crimes. (That, and extrajudicial intimidation, beatings and killings.) But what's really amazing is that their court testimony is usually given more weight than testimony from a human, despite the structurally engineered conflict of interest. Judges see them all the time, and know a cop's job is to lie lie lie. They've seen them caught in lies in front of their own bench. But the judges' jobs are also to convict people so it's nice and cozy-like.
Good thing you had a busload of nuns and a PTA schoolmarm meeting on the scene, Decavolt. I'm assuming that cop is now in prison for perjury, right? Riiiight.
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there is one part i agree with the cops giving a photo id is a better thing to do cause for me there is a person who has the same first and last name in my county who had a warrant out for his arrest i got arrested cause of this person and i sued the police officers who arrested me cause the never double checked the birthday on my id to the one who had the warrant and i was held for 3 days in the station among other things that were not followed by the book
By: ydoesitmater
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why would the officer be so angry about a phone ringing? does he have ACAB as his ringtone?
By: bobolifoo
