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A Showtime independent film, first aired 9 July 2007. RT 87:41.
The medical use of marijuana is examined from every side of a very complex issue with this documentary that charts the suffering of four chronically ill patients whose reliance on the illegal drug as a pain killer is in jeopardy due to federal anti-narcotic legislation. Reform organizations, prohibitionist groups, politicians, drug war critics, scientists, and celebrities all get their say in this fascinating analysis.
The medical use of marijuana is examined from every side of a very complex issue with this documentary that charts the suffering of four chronically ill patients whose reliance on the illegal drug as a pain killer is in jeopardy due to federal anti-narcotic legislation. Reform organizations, prohibitionist groups, politicians, drug war critics, scientists, and celebrities all get their say in this fascinating analysis.
Aug 1, 2009 2:26 PM
Re: In Pot We Trust
In this documentary the use of medical marijuana is NOT examined from ever side. I'm a big supported of the medical maj. movement, but I'm also a big anti bullshit supporter. When scientist who are funded by people who support the movement do research pot is great! When scientist who are supported by people who oppose the movement do research pot is EVIL! If you think that pot has no negative side effect your wrong. There are many, most notably your friend who sits on his couch and does nothing all day. Don't lie you know him. If you know pot you know him. If you think that pot has no positive side effects your wrong. See the above video. The problem I have with this movie is that it doesn't shoe that "when" med. mar. is legalized people WILL abuse it. For more travel to any state where it is legal. This film is better than most posted on m &c in that at least shows people who oppose the movement, but it only shows them for a second before cutting into another a pro pot person giving a counter point to the previous statement. It rarely happened the other way around.
The entire scientific community does not agree about anything, but answers can be found in doing thousands of trials led by people who hate each other but want to know the real truth.
The entire scientific community does not agree about anything, but answers can be found in doing thousands of trials led by people who hate each other but want to know the real truth.
By: jimtame
Re: In Pot We Trust
Not an impartial film by any stretch of the imagination.
But let's take the guy who smokes dope on his couch all day. We'll call him Jimmy. Odds are, even without smoking weed Jimmy would be sitting on the couch all day and watching reruns of I Dream of Jeanie.
As for medical marijuana being legal in some states, it is still classified as a schedule 1 drug under federal law. No state law can trump a federal one. End of story.
I'd be for legalization on a national basis for both medical and recreational purposes. And I haven't touched the stuff in almost 25 years. But to get it off the black market and to tax it just as we do alcohol and tobacco would be a real winner.
But let's take the guy who smokes dope on his couch all day. We'll call him Jimmy. Odds are, even without smoking weed Jimmy would be sitting on the couch all day and watching reruns of I Dream of Jeanie.
As for medical marijuana being legal in some states, it is still classified as a schedule 1 drug under federal law. No state law can trump a federal one. End of story.
I'd be for legalization on a national basis for both medical and recreational purposes. And I haven't touched the stuff in almost 25 years. But to get it off the black market and to tax it just as we do alcohol and tobacco would be a real winner.
By: spam_vigilante
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"No state can trump a federal one (law)."
The US Constitution is the supreme law of the land. If the federal government writes a law for which there is no constitutional basis, any state is free to disobey that law, and secede from the Union if needed; and not only secede, but defend militarily against the oppressor if the need arises, which of course it will, because the US feds are notoriously imperialistic.
The US Constitution is the supreme law of the land. If the federal government writes a law for which there is no constitutional basis, any state is free to disobey that law, and secede from the Union if needed; and not only secede, but defend militarily against the oppressor if the need arises, which of course it will, because the US feds are notoriously imperialistic.
Re: In Pot We Trust
I ain't no law expert (X is an unknown quantity ans spurt is a drip under pressure), but I do know that both the Supremacy Clause of the US Constitution and the Fourteenth Amendment state otherwise.
Secession? What, is your name Rick Perry?
Secession? What, is your name Rick Perry?
By: spam_vigilante
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Spammie, your country changed with that Lincoln dictator fellow. I don't buy the adapted Constitution, but go for the unexpurgated (original) version. Of course, I'd edit it somewhat here and there. Jefferson would be proud. He'd lose his slaves, though. Here's a few edits I'd make within a heartbeat: the government (local, state, and federal) cannot go into debt, nor can it institute a central bank, or tax the incomes of the people, and neither can it draft the people into the army & wolves shall enjoy all the rights any citizen of these United States of America enjoys.
Also, I don't know if that Perry reference is meant as ridicule, but I guess so. Fact is, I wholeheartedly support any talk and action to protect the people from an obtrusive (let's make that unconstitutional) government. Thus, if the (central) government feels like repressing the people is rollicking good fun, the people should fight (that's not just guns, nor guns first and talk later) back. That's a duty of the people, by the way. If they don't, matters will get worse.
So, the Perry guy is correct in saying that, if the central government intrudes upon the Texans, the Texans' interests are then best served if that whole state secedes. That way, their liberty and lives won't be under the heavy hand of the central government. Time to shoot some lead as well then.
To be honest, I don't know much about the Perry guy, except that he seems to do a fairly good job for the Texans, keeping taxes relatively low, balancing the budget, criticizing the fascist-in-control up in Washington, DC, and declining bribes from that fascist. Not too shabby. Then again, I got this from a cursory investigation, so he might not be so good after all. He's far better than a lot of other politicians, though.
And so you see that America, to all sorts of people, means all sorts of different things. I, for one, don't particularly care for national socialism, but lots and lots of Americans do (unknowingly). Go read the Nazi Constitution some day. Is pretty interesting to see so much of America embrace it now.
We really should talk this over some time over a few gallons of beer. I got plenty of other subjects to talk about as well. You pay the moose steak and I'll talk. I can't fail to be funny. Listening to my accent is worth the price of a moose steak by itself.
Now, there's real hope, though. The Americans aren't as stoopid as they seem, or am I too optimistic here? Yeah, no doubt. So the approval rating for the big fascist is dropping overall, but instead they go for Limbaugh and that sort of despicable trash?
Nah, let Obama fuck up for the rest of his term, then. That way, in 2012 there will hopefully be enough people who understand what is best in life.
Romney: "To fuck brown and black people, convert everyone to Mormonism, and to blow up the world so we can be saved by our galactic overlords."
American people: *roll eyes*
Obama: "Ve must make sure to--"
American people: "BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!"
Paul: "To
The rest was drowned out by the American people. I'm sure it was really good. There was a rather penetrating smell of pot as well.
Also, I don't know if that Perry reference is meant as ridicule, but I guess so. Fact is, I wholeheartedly support any talk and action to protect the people from an obtrusive (let's make that unconstitutional) government. Thus, if the (central) government feels like repressing the people is rollicking good fun, the people should fight (that's not just guns, nor guns first and talk later) back. That's a duty of the people, by the way. If they don't, matters will get worse.
So, the Perry guy is correct in saying that, if the central government intrudes upon the Texans, the Texans' interests are then best served if that whole state secedes. That way, their liberty and lives won't be under the heavy hand of the central government. Time to shoot some lead as well then.
To be honest, I don't know much about the Perry guy, except that he seems to do a fairly good job for the Texans, keeping taxes relatively low, balancing the budget, criticizing the fascist-in-control up in Washington, DC, and declining bribes from that fascist. Not too shabby. Then again, I got this from a cursory investigation, so he might not be so good after all. He's far better than a lot of other politicians, though.
And so you see that America, to all sorts of people, means all sorts of different things. I, for one, don't particularly care for national socialism, but lots and lots of Americans do (unknowingly). Go read the Nazi Constitution some day. Is pretty interesting to see so much of America embrace it now.
We really should talk this over some time over a few gallons of beer. I got plenty of other subjects to talk about as well. You pay the moose steak and I'll talk. I can't fail to be funny. Listening to my accent is worth the price of a moose steak by itself.
Now, there's real hope, though. The Americans aren't as stoopid as they seem, or am I too optimistic here? Yeah, no doubt. So the approval rating for the big fascist is dropping overall, but instead they go for Limbaugh and that sort of despicable trash?
Nah, let Obama fuck up for the rest of his term, then. That way, in 2012 there will hopefully be enough people who understand what is best in life.
Romney: "To fuck brown and black people, convert everyone to Mormonism, and to blow up the world so we can be saved by our galactic overlords."
American people: *roll eyes*
Obama: "Ve must make sure to--"
American people: "BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!"
Paul: "To
The rest was drowned out by the American people. I'm sure it was really good. There was a rather penetrating smell of pot as well.
Re: In Pot We Trust
W_W, if you notice anywhere I post my personal information, political position is usually either "independent" or "left-leaning". I am likely as far left as you'll find on most social issues but probably a little to the right on most economic ones.
Interestingly enough, every political forum I enter, the conservatives all claim how this country is a center-right one. Yet you're telling us that we lean too dangerously to the left. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt because your ax needs not a whole lot of honing these days. ;-)
As far as state government and balanced budgets go, unlike the Fed, they can't just print more money of float bond issues endlessly (neither can the US Dept of the Treasury, but that's another story). So Rick Perry strikes out in any credit you deem due him.
Back to economic irresponsibility. On the federal level. Yeah, the spending beyond our means worries me. The Clinton Administration left us with a surplus not likely because of anything he or his appointees did but the odds are far more in the favor of the Republican majority in Congress.
I keep offering a beer summit (sorry Barry). Maybe we'll do that one day.
Interestingly enough, every political forum I enter, the conservatives all claim how this country is a center-right one. Yet you're telling us that we lean too dangerously to the left. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt because your ax needs not a whole lot of honing these days. ;-)
As far as state government and balanced budgets go, unlike the Fed, they can't just print more money of float bond issues endlessly (neither can the US Dept of the Treasury, but that's another story). So Rick Perry strikes out in any credit you deem due him.
Back to economic irresponsibility. On the federal level. Yeah, the spending beyond our means worries me. The Clinton Administration left us with a surplus not likely because of anything he or his appointees did but the odds are far more in the favor of the Republican majority in Congress.
I keep offering a beer summit (sorry Barry). Maybe we'll do that one day.
By: spam_vigilante
Re: In Pot We Trust
Some day you should just tell me that you think I acted stupidly and I'll act all offended. Then you'll invite me to a beer summit.
So what do I have to do? Break into your apartment?
So what do I have to do? Break into your apartment?
Re: In Pot We Trust
I'll see your Supremacy Clause and Fourteenth Amendment and raise you my Tenth Amendment.
By: KeyserSosay
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The Tenth Amendment does not allow for secession. Secession is treason.
But I'm no Constitutional lawyer.
But I'm no Constitutional lawyer.
By: spam_vigilante
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I don't know about secession, but state governments do thumb their nose at the federal government from time to time. When it's not over something stupid, like slavery, the courts sometimes end up in favor of states rights.
By: KeyserSosay
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Actually, I think secession would be used more as a non-violent protest by a state these days. Not an actual secession. If it's non-violent and the state is not trying to overthrow the federal government, then a state can assert seccession or otherwise become uncooperative.
By: KeyserSosay
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Marijuana does get glamorized and hyped these days and people talk about it like it's the most harmless thing ever. That's where the pro-pot people start to sound idiotic to those who know better. I hate to pass judgment but since I know I have a problem with this particular substance then it's logical for me to assume that some other people probably have a problem with it as well. Don't tell me "it's just a plant dude". You're probably too emotionally numb to realize how much pot has hijacked your life.
However, I firmly believe that adults should be able to pull on their big boy pants and make big boy decisions without the government stepping in. The pro-pot advocates are way too short sighted. If they don't want the government to be all up in their ass with nanny-state laws then protest the nanny-state. Don't just say, let's get pot legalized and then we're done. You damn stoners need to have a broader agenda.
However, I firmly believe that adults should be able to pull on their big boy pants and make big boy decisions without the government stepping in. The pro-pot advocates are way too short sighted. If they don't want the government to be all up in their ass with nanny-state laws then protest the nanny-state. Don't just say, let's get pot legalized and then we're done. You damn stoners need to have a broader agenda.
By: KeyserSosay
