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When describing those with darker skin, Darwin often used words like 'savage,' 'low,' and 'degraded.'.. The Christian Broadcasting Network CBN http://www.cbn.com
Feb 28, 2009 4:28 PM
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There are also several appalling clips from CBN that will turn your stomach. This was one of their outreach efforts.
By: spam_vigilante
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The way this thing comes off, there was no racism or abortion until Darwin came along. Ooo-kay...
Which is more racist: a scientist whose views on race were biased by the times, or a video that tries to whip people up by playing the race card?
If Darwin were a pet-molesting cannibal, it would make him less popular at Hollywood mixers but it wouldn't invalidate evolution. As for eugenics, it just shows that good science can be twisted for immoral ends - kinda like CBN.
Which is more racist: a scientist whose views on race were biased by the times, or a video that tries to whip people up by playing the race card?
If Darwin were a pet-molesting cannibal, it would make him less popular at Hollywood mixers but it wouldn't invalidate evolution. As for eugenics, it just shows that good science can be twisted for immoral ends - kinda like CBN.
By: SpyPlaneX1
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remember kids: darwin was a racist!
so reject his findings and accept god instead!
/sarcasm
i guess i dont have to comment much, because everyone on milkandcookies knows enough about darwin... but for real... ive never seen anything as fucked up as this. that really turned my stomach upside down
so reject his findings and accept god instead!
/sarcasm
i guess i dont have to comment much, because everyone on milkandcookies knows enough about darwin... but for real... ive never seen anything as fucked up as this. that really turned my stomach upside down
By: DerDobs
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"one professor wrote:"
aka
"some guy said once"
With absolutely no tie in to darwin or anything else they're talking about.
You've gotta have a sub 100 IQ to fall for this stuff.
aka
"some guy said once"
With absolutely no tie in to darwin or anything else they're talking about.
You've gotta have a sub 100 IQ to fall for this stuff.
Re: Confronting Evolution's Racists Roots
While the clip's implications that evolutionary theory is false because of Darwin's personal beliefs might be absurd, let's not exonerate Darwin of his bigotry.
By: Markisus
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Nobody's saying that by modern standards Darwin wasn't racist. He was just no worse than, say, Lincoln, or anyone else at the time. He wasn't using his theory to justify his racism, either.
By: SmartLX
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Not only that... his beard was ugly by modern standards. (But no worse than Lincoln's). I bet he was a bit of a patriarchal sexist pig too. And a goll-dern Christian.
I'm convinced. Natural selection must be false.
I heard Isaac Newton hated his stepfather and threatened to burn down the house.
Gravity Sucks.
I'm convinced. Natural selection must be false.
I heard Isaac Newton hated his stepfather and threatened to burn down the house.
Gravity Sucks.
Re: Confronting Evolution's Racists Roots
Funny stuff! Especially the part about embracing modern science (DNA) to update old science (Darwin), which is what science is supposed to do. And this is intended to convince us to reject science for a belief system that has remained essentially unchanged for millenia. Ha Ha! Stop! My sides hurt! You wacky kidders!
By: awfabee
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Hmm...I wonder how many slave owners would have described themselves as good, "God-fearing", Christians? I also doubt many of them subscribed to evolution.
So, while it is hard to hear that a lot of intelligent folks (like Darwin) were not highly virtuous saints (read up on Thomas Edison, sometime...he sounded like a real thug), it doesn't invalidate their discoveries.
So, while it is hard to hear that a lot of intelligent folks (like Darwin) were not highly virtuous saints (read up on Thomas Edison, sometime...he sounded like a real thug), it doesn't invalidate their discoveries.
By: galliard
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It was said in the clip "racism is a socail construct" nothing to do with science.
Here's a random things for you, I'm pretty sure i saw something on M&C about Jesus, and in part of it, it showed how he was a racist or bigot (like many others at the time) towards a religion or some group of people. So shouldn't they reject the bible as much as they reject Darwin ?
If you try hunting for this video I'm talking about it's a BBC thing about Easter. I think it was a 6 part thing because of Lent and all that, who knows it might pop up on TV again.
Here's a random things for you, I'm pretty sure i saw something on M&C about Jesus, and in part of it, it showed how he was a racist or bigot (like many others at the time) towards a religion or some group of people. So shouldn't they reject the bible as much as they reject Darwin ?
If you try hunting for this video I'm talking about it's a BBC thing about Easter. I think it was a 6 part thing because of Lent and all that, who knows it might pop up on TV again.
By: D3NIS
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oh my god, can Christians get any more retarded on this evolution stuff.
By: majetta
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I agree that just because he was a racist doesn't mean you should discount his work.
Anthropology 101 mirrors many of Darwin's foundations of racial categories minus the social factors only someone from that era could add.
Anthropology 101 mirrors many of Darwin's foundations of racial categories minus the social factors only someone from that era could add.
By: ejayerik
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it's good to remember how far we have come as a society despite the vicious and ignorant rantings of so-called Christians through history... during Darwin's time they would have cheerfully agreed with the racist themes, and plenty of them still do. That silly video is typical preaching to the mushy-headed choir, using modern religious tools -- repeat the same BS long enough and everyone starts agreeing it must be fact. THelps take focus away from the evil perpetuated by the "christian taliban" even today
By: piggyereens
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Sorry everybody, reality is racist.
Some races of humans are smarter, some are better athletes, some are more lazy than others, some races love fried chicken, some are more likely to be religious zealots and some have bad teeth.
However, it's pretty safe to say atheism has nothing to do with racism.
For all of you who are angsty about Atheism getting a bad rap in America, don't expect to be satisfied in your lifetime. It takes a few generations for large trends like this to change. You have to wait for all the people who can't be persuaded by logic and reason to die off.
Some races of humans are smarter, some are better athletes, some are more lazy than others, some races love fried chicken, some are more likely to be religious zealots and some have bad teeth.
However, it's pretty safe to say atheism has nothing to do with racism.
For all of you who are angsty about Atheism getting a bad rap in America, don't expect to be satisfied in your lifetime. It takes a few generations for large trends like this to change. You have to wait for all the people who can't be persuaded by logic and reason to die off.
By: Chewbot
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If CBN represents christians, its making them look bad.
By: meat
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Wow. Just wow. It blows me away sometimes how Christians can just flat out lie. They are trying to deceive the ignorant into believing the theory of evolution is racist. Don't they remember the 9th commandment? You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor?
I am not even a Christian and I know that. Sad.
I am not even a Christian and I know that. Sad.
By: Crabjuice
