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Neil deGrasse Tyson lectured at the University of Texas at Arlington, as part of their Maverick Speakers series. In this clip, he talks about the differences between science and religion. RT 3:06.
Feb 23, 2009 4:13 PM
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Absolutely right. Read the book To Have or To Be, then you will understand why, in this production line environment, why it is difficult to convince anyone of anything, that is contrary to their own beleif system. Written by Eric Fromm.
By: vmancanada
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lol there are plenty of examples of science knocking on the doors of church goers’ opinions and beliefs. Those who would laugh in the face of a fundamentalist are just as bad as the fundamentalists who mock the sciences.
What I noticed most about the audience is that they clapped at anything that mocked religion. When Neil turned the coin on them, there wasn't a peep.
Another match to the fuel here. Why does it seem like Darwin is becoming some college kid's rival to Jesus? Maybe everyone needs a symbol to believe in be it for religion or science.
What I noticed most about the audience is that they clapped at anything that mocked religion. When Neil turned the coin on them, there wasn't a peep.
Another match to the fuel here. Why does it seem like Darwin is becoming some college kid's rival to Jesus? Maybe everyone needs a symbol to believe in be it for religion or science.
By: ejayerik
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lmao at the guy in the crowd "Amen brother".
By: ejayerik
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"Why does it seem like Darwin is becoming some college kid's rival to Jesus? Maybe everyone needs a symbol to believe in be it for religion or science."
Beacuse Darwin actually existed and is regarded as the forefather of evolutionary science.
Beacuse Darwin actually existed and is regarded as the forefather of evolutionary science.
By: Wr3ck
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Oh Jez. You didn't read a word I wrote did you?
By: ejayerik
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I read every one. You do have your moments of sound practical judgment. For example, that folowers of science and those that espouse atheism mock religion regardless of what Dr. deGrasse Tyson says in this clip. Very true.
Do they go to churches and petition the clergy to reconsider in the way that evangelicals demand of local school boards that intelligent design be taught in science classes? Not so.
It's not about belief so much as it is a case of irresponsible activism. While I do not speak for the Director of the Hayden Planetarium, I believe that I have echoed his sentiment.
Do they go to churches and petition the clergy to reconsider in the way that evangelicals demand of local school boards that intelligent design be taught in science classes? Not so.
It's not about belief so much as it is a case of irresponsible activism. While I do not speak for the Director of the Hayden Planetarium, I believe that I have echoed his sentiment.
By: spam_vigilante
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Do you feel I was bias in my comment? I agree that religions (namely Christianity) have tried to place their theory into the classroom just the same as unproven theory from various sciences have also been placed into the classroom. This of course is a topic that can cross both public and private as students are often taught two different and sometimes conflicting (depending on the religion, intensity, ect) theories.
I had hoped that this wasn't going to turn into a religious debate.
BTW, it's widely believed by many scientists that Jesus Christ did in fact exist. Who he is or what he did is up to you to believe.
And of course one can always state the obvious. There is more to life than empirical evidence.
I had hoped that this wasn't going to turn into a religious debate.
BTW, it's widely believed by many scientists that Jesus Christ did in fact exist. Who he is or what he did is up to you to believe.
And of course one can always state the obvious. There is more to life than empirical evidence.
By: ejayerik
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Sorry buddy, but you obviously don't understand what a scientific theory is, which makes everything else you said pretty damn pointless. I think your bias is fairly obvious.
By: chronomitch
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"There is more to life than empirical evidence."
Like UFOs! And alien abductions! And Sylvia Brown and John Edward! And homopathy! And all that othe random bull I can pull out my butt.
Should we dedicate serious classroom time to teaching the "possibility" of Alien Abduction stories? Or that people might "possibly" have psyhic power and can talk to dead people? No. Of course not. That'd be stupid. It doesn't matter if it's just showing two sides of the story because not every story is worth being told, especially in a science class.
Also, the fact that "many" scientist believe that Jesus existed doesn't make SCIENCE any less true. Figure out the difference and get back to us.
Like UFOs! And alien abductions! And Sylvia Brown and John Edward! And homopathy! And all that othe random bull I can pull out my butt.
Should we dedicate serious classroom time to teaching the "possibility" of Alien Abduction stories? Or that people might "possibly" have psyhic power and can talk to dead people? No. Of course not. That'd be stupid. It doesn't matter if it's just showing two sides of the story because not every story is worth being told, especially in a science class.
Also, the fact that "many" scientist believe that Jesus existed doesn't make SCIENCE any less true. Figure out the difference and get back to us.
By: McCorvic
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I never once suggested otherwise. Point out where you thought so and get back to me.
You like others here are not hearing what I am saying. And for some reason you seem to think that I am defending a religious point of view in which I am not.
What I am defending is the right to learn more than what a governmental entity tells us we should. Be it UFO's, fake mediums, healing sounds and scents, or flying spaghetti monsters.
I very much understand what scientific theory entails and what it is defined as. I haven't demonstrated otherwise.
Show me empirical evidence to the existence of alien life. I will show you the scientific theory which dictates they can exist. Conversations of this nature are tit for tat and end up being circular arguments.
You like others here are not hearing what I am saying. And for some reason you seem to think that I am defending a religious point of view in which I am not.
What I am defending is the right to learn more than what a governmental entity tells us we should. Be it UFO's, fake mediums, healing sounds and scents, or flying spaghetti monsters.
I very much understand what scientific theory entails and what it is defined as. I haven't demonstrated otherwise.
Show me empirical evidence to the existence of alien life. I will show you the scientific theory which dictates they can exist. Conversations of this nature are tit for tat and end up being circular arguments.
By: ejayerik
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I have no issue with people who believe in that invisible man in the sky. My real problem exists when they try to mask their notions.
By: spam_vigilante
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This topic was ripe for this anyway. Although most of the posters to my comments haven't really read what I wrote, I can at least count on spam_vigilante to point out valid arguments.
I'm ready to be burned at the stake.
I'm ready to be burned at the stake.
By: ejayerik
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You bring up a good point about Darwin though, a lot of people don't realize his ideas were old. Evolution was already proposed, and so were his ideas on the mechanisms of it, including Wallace who was smothered by Darwin.
A lot of myths exist around Darwin since he is a major figure and an idol in science. A great (although overinflated) scientist and thinker.
A lot of myths exist around Darwin since he is a major figure and an idol in science. A great (although overinflated) scientist and thinker.
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Neil deGrasse Tyson is one of my heroes. Amazingly intelligent and remarkably witty.
By: Wr3ck
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He said that there was no TRADITION of scientists "picketing" religious places of worship. He didn't say it never happened. But as history tells us, that there is tradition in religious fundamentalists picketing something to "rock the boat". Religion causes many conflicts, if only they'd learn to just get along. And to remember that church and state are separate. If the STATE school doesn't meet their standards then i suggest that another more religious orientated school be opened. Not an ideal situation, but it's just an idea.
By: D3NIS
