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A young woman stands up to an Israeli soldier shooting at Palestinian youths.
Jan 12, 2009 12:44 AM
Re: Palestinian Girl Stands up to Israeli Soldier
I think "(young) woman" is a better description here.
Re: Palestinian Girl Stands up to Israeli Soldier
She's American, maybe Canadian. Point is, though, she's go some guts. The world would be a much better place with more of that kind of courage and conviction.
By: Oh-Deeh
Re: Palestinian Woman Stands Up to Israeli Soldier
Meh, she knew they won't shoot her. I don't see her standing in front of Hamas rockets, or the stones they throw at aldulterous whores. That would take guts.
By: poonhound
Re: Palestinian Woman Stands Up to Israeli Soldier
Humans of all types will continue to fight and kill each other until all humans are dead...it's just how they are. No group is immune, no group is "better"...they all stink.
By: galliard
Re: Palestinian Woman Stands Up to Israeli Soldier
Not to get all hippy on ya, but humans also have an equal, if not greater, ability to love, create beauty, help one another, support those in need, and inspire.
All is not loss. Don't give up. When you feel negative, do something positive for yourself or someone else.
The apocalypse may not be what we fear.
All is not loss. Don't give up. When you feel negative, do something positive for yourself or someone else.
The apocalypse may not be what we fear.
Re: Palestinian Woman Stands Up to Israeli Soldier
The great progressive homosexual activist and author Bruce Bawer once said, "Pat Robertson just wanted to deny me gay marraige. The Imams of Iran wanted to drop a stone wall on me."
No difference. All the same. The suffering of homosexuals who are tortured and executed simply for being homosexuals is just as trivial as Rosie O'Donnell's suffering when her marraige ceremony is not officially recognized by the state of California.
No difference. All the same. The suffering of homosexuals who are tortured and executed simply for being homosexuals is just as trivial as Rosie O'Donnell's suffering when her marraige ceremony is not officially recognized by the state of California.
By: poonhound
Re: Palestinian Woman Stands Up to Israeli Soldier
And to talk about a Shiite, farsi speaking country populated mostly by persians is relevant when the issue is a conflict between Israel and an Arab population of 70% sunni and 30% christians... because?
But you are right, that girl on the video should fly to Iran and open a lesbian Bar.
But you are right, that girl on the video should fly to Iran and open a lesbian Bar.
By: El_Hombre_Malo
Re: Palestinian Woman Stands Up to Israeli Soldier
You're right, this isn't admirable at all...
I mean, those kids were all above the age of 2.
I mean, those kids were all above the age of 2.
By: the_monk
Re: Palestinian Woman Stands Up to Israeli Soldier
Actually, they do.
Most of the opposition to stonings and extremist terrorism comes from within arab society. Individuals and organizations risk their life to improve their neighbour's lot. Usually putting them against the kind of leaders the USA backs economically and politically. The fact that western media prefer's to simply point at whatever is wrong and use it to patronize their whole culture doesnt help much either.
While your goverment makes deals with the people who stone those adulterous women, it takes guts to talk shit about that girl. And by the way, it wouldnt be the first time the IDF shoots someone doing the exact same thing she was doing.
Most of the opposition to stonings and extremist terrorism comes from within arab society. Individuals and organizations risk their life to improve their neighbour's lot. Usually putting them against the kind of leaders the USA backs economically and politically. The fact that western media prefer's to simply point at whatever is wrong and use it to patronize their whole culture doesnt help much either.
While your goverment makes deals with the people who stone those adulterous women, it takes guts to talk shit about that girl. And by the way, it wouldnt be the first time the IDF shoots someone doing the exact same thing she was doing.
By: El_Hombre_Malo
Re: Palestinian Woman Stands Up to Israeli Soldier
Now only if only progressive westerners would join up with these anti-islamist arabs, instead of pledging solidarity with "resistance" organizations like Hamas, Fatah, Hezbollah ect... then we would be getting somewhere!
By: poonhound
Re: Palestinian Woman Stands Up to Israeli Soldier
Strange... Progressive organizations in the west have been advocating for change and backing reformists in the arab world for decades. Its just a few years since conservatives made human rights in the middle east a talking point and now they behave like they invented it... all the while justifying their deals and trades with corrupt goverments that actually commit and orchestrate said human rights infringements.
Now, if you point to any mainstream progressive organization who pledged solidarity with Hamas or Hezbollah, your words might be taken as something else than the propaganda they are now. And by the way, Al Fatah, corrupt as it is, are "the good guys" now. Israel talks to them, the USA talks to them... They are neither extremist nor religiously motivated (in fact it has widespread following among christian palestinians). So wherever you get your info... is crap.
Now, if you point to any mainstream progressive organization who pledged solidarity with Hamas or Hezbollah, your words might be taken as something else than the propaganda they are now. And by the way, Al Fatah, corrupt as it is, are "the good guys" now. Israel talks to them, the USA talks to them... They are neither extremist nor religiously motivated (in fact it has widespread following among christian palestinians). So wherever you get your info... is crap.
By: El_Hombre_Malo
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All of the information you get is crap when you pull it out of your ass, right poonhound? But don't worry Hombre, poon'll be right back with more affected, righteous indignation just as soon as he looks up more of Sean Hannity's talking points.
Let's see, here... They're all brown people that worship the wrong, hateful religion. Yep, covered that. Then ignored it when Hombre corrected you.
Um... Did you mention that opposing Israel, its policies, or its representatives means you're an anti-democracy anti-Semite? Not in THIS thread yet, at least. You should definitely bring that point up, Poonhound. That one always pwns 'em. Take that, terrorists!
Let's see, here... They're all brown people that worship the wrong, hateful religion. Yep, covered that. Then ignored it when Hombre corrected you.
Um... Did you mention that opposing Israel, its policies, or its representatives means you're an anti-democracy anti-Semite? Not in THIS thread yet, at least. You should definitely bring that point up, Poonhound. That one always pwns 'em. Take that, terrorists!
By: Oh-Deeh
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ADDENDUM:
If you didn't figure it out by now, I am a disillusioned "former" progressive who is disgusted by what I am seeing here. Much like other disgruntled leftists such as Chris Hitchens, Sam Harris, Nick Cohen and Bruce Bawer.
You are the one who is racist towards "brown people" because you don't hold them to the same expectations of humanity as you do white people or Jews.
To you, arabs and other dark skinned denizens of muslim countries are "Noble Savages" with no ability to hedge their passions with reason. So you expect them to behave like insects responding to stimuli, and don't hold them morally responsible for their actions.
Opposing zionism is anti semetic when you don't apply the same standard to other nations like Albania, Armenia, Pakistan, ect... who were created under similar circumstances after the dissolving of a previous empire. If israel has no right to exist, then nor does any of those nations I mentioned. Who calls for the right of return for Hindus to Pakistan, or Armenians to Turkey or Croatians to Italy? No one.
A kurdish man once said that his people were cursed. Was it becuase of poverty or geography or other similar circumstances? No. It was because the kurds had no Jewish enemies. Therefore they could not illicit sympathies from around the world for their plight.
If you didn't figure it out by now, I am a disillusioned "former" progressive who is disgusted by what I am seeing here. Much like other disgruntled leftists such as Chris Hitchens, Sam Harris, Nick Cohen and Bruce Bawer.
You are the one who is racist towards "brown people" because you don't hold them to the same expectations of humanity as you do white people or Jews.
To you, arabs and other dark skinned denizens of muslim countries are "Noble Savages" with no ability to hedge their passions with reason. So you expect them to behave like insects responding to stimuli, and don't hold them morally responsible for their actions.
Opposing zionism is anti semetic when you don't apply the same standard to other nations like Albania, Armenia, Pakistan, ect... who were created under similar circumstances after the dissolving of a previous empire. If israel has no right to exist, then nor does any of those nations I mentioned. Who calls for the right of return for Hindus to Pakistan, or Armenians to Turkey or Croatians to Italy? No one.
A kurdish man once said that his people were cursed. Was it becuase of poverty or geography or other similar circumstances? No. It was because the kurds had no Jewish enemies. Therefore they could not illicit sympathies from around the world for their plight.
By: poonhound
Re: Palestinian Woman Stands Up to Israeli Soldier
I'm sorry, but the very fact that modern Armenia, Albania, Pakistan, and I'm assuming whatever's included in "etc.," were founded after the collapse of two empires--that they were formed in a vacuum of power--makes them incongruous to Israel. None of those states were imposed on a nation of people; they are all examples of nations claiming independence from ruling states. How does that parallel the British Mandate of Palestine, or UN Resolution 181?
And I wasn't aware that I saw anyone as "noble savages." Because I'm pretty sure I've only ever said we need to hold every nation accountable for their actions. Poon, did you put words in my mouth again? Oh, you.
And I wasn't aware that I saw anyone as "noble savages." Because I'm pretty sure I've only ever said we need to hold every nation accountable for their actions. Poon, did you put words in my mouth again? Oh, you.
By: Oh-Deeh
Re: Palestinian Woman Stands Up to Israeli Soldier
Well, I don't see em. But I see this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3D8F-2Iujk
and I can name at least 2 organizations such as ANSWER and the World Workers Party who led a rally in DC '06 which their "Ras Trent" dreadlock sporting, che tshirt-wearing white suburban college kid members were standing side by side with radical Islamsists chanting "We are All Hezbbollah" some video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eLcSN51stA
I see chants of "From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be Free" from "peace" rallies throughout Europe. Peace means the ethnic cleansing of Jews apparently.
The day America boycotts Saudi Arabia for its human rights abuses, you will see progressives and Salafis chanting to "end the blockade" of the holy land, and condemn "collective punishment" of Arabs.
Fatah shouldn't be the good guys. It just shows you how perverse modern Arab Islamic culture is that they are the best you are going to get. The progenator of fatah - Yassir Arafat's uncle Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini helped Hitler draft the final solution. Fantastic.
I guess its OK when racist Arab fascists call for the extermination of Jews by the mujahideen as long as they shave their beards.
If you think fatah is "a good guy" and not extermist, then who are these corrupt governments that America supports? They must not be that bad, if fatah is a model for proper arab polity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3D8F-2Iujk
and I can name at least 2 organizations such as ANSWER and the World Workers Party who led a rally in DC '06 which their "Ras Trent" dreadlock sporting, che tshirt-wearing white suburban college kid members were standing side by side with radical Islamsists chanting "We are All Hezbbollah" some video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eLcSN51stA
I see chants of "From the River to the Sea, Palestine will be Free" from "peace" rallies throughout Europe. Peace means the ethnic cleansing of Jews apparently.
The day America boycotts Saudi Arabia for its human rights abuses, you will see progressives and Salafis chanting to "end the blockade" of the holy land, and condemn "collective punishment" of Arabs.
Fatah shouldn't be the good guys. It just shows you how perverse modern Arab Islamic culture is that they are the best you are going to get. The progenator of fatah - Yassir Arafat's uncle Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini helped Hitler draft the final solution. Fantastic.
I guess its OK when racist Arab fascists call for the extermination of Jews by the mujahideen as long as they shave their beards.
If you think fatah is "a good guy" and not extermist, then who are these corrupt governments that America supports? They must not be that bad, if fatah is a model for proper arab polity.
By: poonhound
Re: Palestinian Woman Stands Up to Israeli Soldier
I love how the Israeli soldier decided to get up on a rock to shoot over her. It was a funny moment up until the firing dispersed the crowd at the end.
By: Nate_guy
Re: Palestinian Woman Stands Up to Israeli Soldier
as an ex Israeli soldier, there is no way that they were shooting live ammo at them.
one of the first thing they teach is never to shoot someone unless your life is in danger.
i dont know what a red clip is but its probably rubber bullets.
i wanna see her going to gaza and stand in front of a Hamas soldier and see what happens
one of the first thing they teach is never to shoot someone unless your life is in danger.
i dont know what a red clip is but its probably rubber bullets.
i wanna see her going to gaza and stand in front of a Hamas soldier and see what happens
By: ADiSH
Re: Palestinian Woman Stands Up to Israeli Soldier
Yeah, I saw that red tape, and thought the same thing. And even if she knew that (which I doubt) it still takes some balls to do what she's doing.
On a side note, do all your rifles have that long flash suppressor? Or was that a modification--like a blank adapter--to compensate for the rubber bullets?
On a side note, do all your rifles have that long flash suppressor? Or was that a modification--like a blank adapter--to compensate for the rubber bullets?
By: Oh-Deeh
Re: Palestinian Woman Stands Up to Israeli Soldier
it looks like a standard M-16, i dont know about the long neck..
By: ADiSH
