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Why do Christians use the trappings of a pagan festival to celebrate the birth of Jesus when the Bible commands believers to avoid such things?
Dec 13, 2008 4:49 PM
Re: Christians, Why Do You Celebrate Christmas?
Why would the average christian know what the bible says?
By: Faffy
Re: Christians, Why Do You Celebrate Christmas?
I am disappointed that this clip was not of a man asking people off the street "Why do you celebrate Christmas".
Also, i felt that it needs to be explained better how Christmas is a pagan holiday.
Also, i felt that it needs to be explained better how Christmas is a pagan holiday.
By: deadned
Re: Christians, Why Do You Celebrate Christmas?
Because they are a marketing machine.
By: billyrageguy
Re: Christians, Why Do You Celebrate Christmas?
Be fruitful and multiply...and buy lot's of shit.
The American Spirit of Christmas!
My in-laws wanted to know what I wanted for Christmas, so I told them I'd love to have that electronic sudoku game that they never use. I think the idea of wanting a second-hand gift perplexed them. I won't be surprised if I get a brand-new, even fancier electronic sudoku game from them, instead. Really, though, I'd be very pleased to take the one that's currently gathering dust in their junk drawer. The one that they both bemoaned as something they'll never use.
By: Oh-Deeh
Re: Christians, Why Do You Celebrate Christmas?
My question to you all is this, Why don't YOU celebrate Ramadan?
Don't worry, you will.
Don't worry, you will.
By: poonhound
Re: Christians, Why Do You Celebrate Christmas?
Christmas gave me an Atari 2600 and a Nintendo 8-bit. If people had to die or be deceived for those things to happen, so be it.
Supernatural makebelieve is not real.
Praise ishvara, or buddha, or horace, or ra, or jesus, or zues, or allah, or yoda.
Supernatural makebelieve is not real.
Praise ishvara, or buddha, or horace, or ra, or jesus, or zues, or allah, or yoda.
By: DonGucciwearin
Re: Christians, Why Do You Celebrate Christmas?
Sadly, I think that most people who profess to be Christian, really aren't. They are repeating what their mothers and fathers told the, or what they hear on the country music station or what they hear on the Sean Hannity show, but they're never really considered what it means.
I'm a Christian - and on Christmas eve, I get together with other Baptists to celebrate the birth of Christ, fully understanding that there is not evidence anywhere that he was born on December 25th.
When I celebrate Christmas, I'm not honoring any pagan gods. That's long past. I'm just following a long standing tradition, which is harmless at this point. Jehovah's Witnesses would disagree and that's fine.
This video states that there are no dates that God says should be celebrated or recognize, but that's wrong - there are a few - passover (which Jesus himself celebrated) and the feast of Tabernacles come to mind. Christmas - no.
But Christ's birth was important. It was prophesied in Isaiah 7:14. The date is not important, the event certainly is. It is mentioned in the bible because it shows the fulfillment of prophesy. And although I can't find mention of Christs birth in any non-biblical sources, I do see references in the writings of Josephus Flavius and there's a Roman historian that mentions him also.
Anyway, I, as a fundamental Christian, celebrate Christmas out of tradition and a recognition of the birth of Jesus Christ, fully understanding that the day probably wasn't December 25 and fully teaching my children to recognize and abstain from the modern Christmas traditions instituted by Madison Ave and Walmart - it's not about 'stuff', it's about the gift of God's solution to mankind's sin problem.
I'm a Christian - and on Christmas eve, I get together with other Baptists to celebrate the birth of Christ, fully understanding that there is not evidence anywhere that he was born on December 25th.
When I celebrate Christmas, I'm not honoring any pagan gods. That's long past. I'm just following a long standing tradition, which is harmless at this point. Jehovah's Witnesses would disagree and that's fine.
This video states that there are no dates that God says should be celebrated or recognize, but that's wrong - there are a few - passover (which Jesus himself celebrated) and the feast of Tabernacles come to mind. Christmas - no.
But Christ's birth was important. It was prophesied in Isaiah 7:14. The date is not important, the event certainly is. It is mentioned in the bible because it shows the fulfillment of prophesy. And although I can't find mention of Christs birth in any non-biblical sources, I do see references in the writings of Josephus Flavius and there's a Roman historian that mentions him also.
Anyway, I, as a fundamental Christian, celebrate Christmas out of tradition and a recognition of the birth of Jesus Christ, fully understanding that the day probably wasn't December 25 and fully teaching my children to recognize and abstain from the modern Christmas traditions instituted by Madison Ave and Walmart - it's not about 'stuff', it's about the gift of God's solution to mankind's sin problem.
By: PalmBayChuck
Re: Christians, Why Do You Celebrate Christmas?
I think the idea that "following a long standing tradition, which is harmless at this point" is a bold statement. Mostly because the tradition isn't that harmless.
Consumerism is insane in this country. And this year I'm jumping on board with the Advent Conspiracy movement. http://www.adventconspiracy.org/
Unfortunately for my family, I'm that guy who is handing over some cash to a non-profit organization in their name. And while I expect to be thanked about as much as those folks who were on the receiving end of George Costanza's "Human Fund: Money for People", I've never been more excited about giving.
This year the family are each getting a $20 bottle of drinking water. The money goes to help build wells in country's in need of clean water.
I was going to buy one as a gift to myself and get the usual gifts for everyone else....but decided that folks need clean water more than my family needs more gift cards.
I'm not saying everyone should do this. I'm not saying this is the "right" or "Christian" thing to do. And I don't in any way think I'm any better than anyone else because of my gift choices this year. Really, I'm not on some soapbox.
But I am excited about changing my own outlook on how to celebrate the birth and life of Christ.
Consumerism is insane in this country. And this year I'm jumping on board with the Advent Conspiracy movement. http://www.adventconspiracy.org/
Unfortunately for my family, I'm that guy who is handing over some cash to a non-profit organization in their name. And while I expect to be thanked about as much as those folks who were on the receiving end of George Costanza's "Human Fund: Money for People", I've never been more excited about giving.
This year the family are each getting a $20 bottle of drinking water. The money goes to help build wells in country's in need of clean water.
I was going to buy one as a gift to myself and get the usual gifts for everyone else....but decided that folks need clean water more than my family needs more gift cards.
I'm not saying everyone should do this. I'm not saying this is the "right" or "Christian" thing to do. And I don't in any way think I'm any better than anyone else because of my gift choices this year. Really, I'm not on some soapbox.
But I am excited about changing my own outlook on how to celebrate the birth and life of Christ.
By: macisaguy
Re: Christians, Why Do You Celebrate Christmas?
The "Tradition" aspect is the recognition of Christ's birth, not the buying of stuff.
I agree with you 100% that this is not a harmless phenomenon and I hate it. I'm 44 years old and in just my life time I can see how this phenomenon has expanded. Shoot, I can remember when blue laws forced stores to remain closed on Sunday's.
America, and a lot of other rich countries, really have a problem with materialism and this problem has manifested itself as our current economic crisis, which is just as much the fault of people spending more money then they could ever pay back as the companies that preyed upon them.
Have a Merry Christmas Macisaguy!!
I agree with you 100% that this is not a harmless phenomenon and I hate it. I'm 44 years old and in just my life time I can see how this phenomenon has expanded. Shoot, I can remember when blue laws forced stores to remain closed on Sunday's.
America, and a lot of other rich countries, really have a problem with materialism and this problem has manifested itself as our current economic crisis, which is just as much the fault of people spending more money then they could ever pay back as the companies that preyed upon them.
Have a Merry Christmas Macisaguy!!
By: PalmBayChuck
