Erasing personality is the plan; the plan is living death.

Conformity, conformity, conformity, the surest way to make it in this world.

Real people, however, choose real death over conformity - unless conformity is worn like a disguise ...

I don't beleive that they ever said Iraq had anything to do with 9/11. However, it does have much to do with the war on terror. 4 reasons why a country should have it's regime changed: Invades another sovreign nation with intent of conquest, participates or condones genocide, violate a non-proliferation treaty, support terrorism. Saddam has done three for certain, and the WMDs were the last straw for us to go in, not 9/11.

I read it, dont buy it. Who owns popoular mechanics? Oh, thats right, the Hearst Corporation.

By the way i like how claim is in RED (BAAD), and fact is in GREEN( GOOOD).

most of the "debunking" was typical O'reilly factor explanation and "expert" opinion.

Having a degree in statistics I would attribute the probability of the government having nothing to do with 911 at about 35%.

:) Thanks, man. I'm pretty sure everybody's read that Popular Mechnics piece by now...

And when it came out, I actually *did* think it made sense. Like I said, I'm no engineer... But then Popular Mechanics and the article itself have been debunked.

They're bogus.

Plus you'll notice that we've deftly moved our focus from the *Aftermath* of 9/11 to the *mechanics* of 9/11. Which is a shame because the Aftermath is the truth we know. And the Aftermath is where we saw our loss of freedoms, the costly occupation of a foreign nation, the destruction of our economic stability, etc.

But let's look at the Popular Mechanics piece so we can get it out of the way.

Per Leopold, the magazine is indeed published by the most infamous yellow journalists since the Spanish-American War, the Hearst Corporation - which itself is overseen by Cathleen Black. She's a corporatist member on the Council on Foreign Relations. Yep.

Oh, and Black's husband? He's a former staffer from the Director of Central Intelligence (DCI) and a Bush political-appointee who previously worked on the Bush '92 campaign. He also worked in a law firm directly with another former member of the DCI...who just happens to be on the Homeland Security Advisory Council. Hmm...

Oh, and Black's husband was a higher-up in the U.S. Information Agency, the folks self-described as winning public support for one's government and its foreign policies...

Now does this mean Black ghost-wrote this article? :) Absolutely not. But it does show the background and environmental mindset of Cathleen Black - and it helps explain why she formulated a takeover at Popular Mechanics and why she hired a whole new, loyal staff only months before their infamous 9/11 article...

And speaking of, the author of this Popular Mechanics piece? A 25-year-old young man who started his career working on "Urban Legends" at New York's Time Out Magazine before moving on to Men's Journal. Mm hm... Which isn't to say he didn't work with scientists on this piece. He did. But then his approach and reliability are deemed far different from that of an experienced scientist.

Someone like, for example, Dr. Steven Jones, a physicist known for his work on muon-catalyzed (aka cold) fusion.

Dr. Jones differs from the Operation Mockingbird-styled Popular Mechanics and its young 25-year-old writer in that Dr. Jones has no personal or financial stake in the matter. In fact, Dr. Jones was negatively impacted by his studies after he was pushed out of BYU who then attempted to discredit his science. Welcome to Stage Two.

And all this is odd because Dr. Jones has written reports which have actually *agreed* with aspects of the official story. So which parts shall we attempt to discredit, hm? :)

But Dr. Jones made the crucial mistake of using his skills, scientific knowledge, and background in physics to demonstrate that the complete official story is not workable. It's untrue. Dr. Jones has said the physics of 9/11's official story don't work. And he's not the only scientist to say so...

So here's the question. Why would we trump these real scientists who point out the impossibility of the official story over a 25-year-old kid with the backing (and editorial direction) of a corporate magazine that has long been a mouthpiece for the military industry, is backed by the CIA and tied to Bush nepotism, and even runs full page ads in support of the Iraq War?

We wouldn't. Popular Mechanics has no credibility.

But all that said, who knows? I generally consider "official story conspiracy theorists" no different from those who think there were no planes (just radio controlled holograms or something :). Both sides seem extreme. One talks about radio-controlled planes and the other ignores that a third building collapsed. In fact, even the NIST says they are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapses on 9/11.

So why should we discard the National Institute of Standards and Technology or independent scientists in favor of a corporate magazine? We wouldn't. And like with most things, the real answer to the mechanics of 9/11 probably lies somewhere in between.

And so the only thing we do know is the Aftermath. Because the Aftermath of 9/11? It has affected us all.

Just like the government's use of the Gulf of Tonkin or Pearl Harbor, the Bush/Cheney Administration used 9/11 to give themselves carte blance to carry out their own agenda. Which we've come to see was quite nefarious and self-serving as they destroyed our liberties and bankrupted our nation in a war that had nothing to do with 9/11 - all the while lining their own pockets.

And their plan came from an agenda that Cheney, et al had written as part of PNAC...years before 9/11 ever happened...

LOL FUNNY FUNNY, well they can do it in connecticut now