Im an atheist too but this is too unfair to relgions case.

Its just like penn and teller's bullshit: you get someone from the opposing side, who is a complete dumbshit, to make that veiw look bad.

I still go to church and hear them complain that people persecute them, (I think that is mostly bullshit.) but you putting this up proves their point.

I could always get out of going to church without claiming to be athiest. More people would go if they didn't have to Kneel. Kneeling sucks hard.

I was brought up in a pretty tolerant Irish Catholic household, but I sure as hell knew some neighbourhood fundies who wanted nothing more than to beat people over the head with the bible.

I think that there are fanatics in every religion. It's like it's easier to study bible than to work with poor people.

I forgot to add:

The swearing is really Christian of you too lady.

tfguy44........ amazing...... utterly amazing..... you got my kudos all the way

Bloody Brilliant!

You win.

Amen, brother.

Yelling and threatening someone into the Kingdom of god is just what the Catholic religion is built on. Just go ask the Native Americans, Spainards, Mexicans, etc, of old.

...And just remember that the Catholic religion adopted Jesus into there teachings and not the other way around.

Excellent illustration. I think history reveals a pretty clear pattern in regard to the rise of fundamentalist religion...lots of bloodshed and anguish. If only EVERYONE would just BELIEVE WHAT I BELIEVE. Then the world would be better...

I think it's funny that Mormons, one of the loopiest religions I've heard of (no intended offense), are among the least pushy.

Just remember:Your mother can stop you from saying it.Your mother can stop you from writing it down.Your mother cannot stop you from thinking it.

Tipical syndrome of not thinking before you speak. That's all.

I told my mom I was an athiest when I was 17, and she was fine about it and we had a rational discussion about our differences of opinions. And yes, the Christmas presents continued.

How about your realization that your comments reveal your worst side.

Go away.

But I mean that in the nicest way, of course.

That's pretty astute. Really a great point.

That's a brill comment-got me thinking.
A 1000 God's-tried telling this to a religious person who tried to say 'no matter who we pray to, ot is still ONE GOD!'
Bull
So if I have faith that in the chair I sit in doesn't collapse, then the chair is my God???#It is all down to belief-but that requires faith. It's not something thatcan be adorned on anyone. You either have faith or you don't.
You need faith in something to survive, but that doesn't have to be a God.
How about we have faith in ourselves and nor an invisible entity from 'above'-lets face it, we're cray if we see UFO's, yet religious and holy if we believe in this subject in the sky-who no-one I know of has seen (of course others may beg to differ, but try telling a shrink that and not be committed)
If it makes people happy and helps them to cope better, then by all means, stick to your religion. If it makes you ILL, then it's not right-or have I got that wrong??
Ill as being-unhappy, depressed and fearful of hell.
The mother 'fucking' knows how to get her point across I don't 'fucking' think!
I would sleep so much better at night if people just minded their own bloody business and got on with life rather than fret about who believes in what. Don't hear tribes people complaiing-until someone foreign tries to take over their country and they get shot for not being civil!!
Each to their own-but then you have those extremists...what can you do?
Have faith in your instincts. It is really that simple.
Those who live by the bible don't always live by what the bible says-so it's bullshit again. Some....most should actually read it.....

hahahaha

Or how all the Atheists on this board are so tolerant and accepting?

I am completely fine with people treating their religion more as a philosophy. It's the idea that I-am-right-and-you-are-wrong-and-if-you-don't-follow-me-you-will-go-to-hell, which leads to the bloodshed that you speak of. I think that That idea is created in all religions by the belief that their belief is from a god. The whole philosophy to be at peace with yourself and neighbors does not need any divinity to be true. if you treat jesus, buddha as just an ideal way to live your life, then you will be at peace. I think that divinity component just brings more stress because your scared of eternal punishment for failure.